But you’ve shut down any other idea given? I don’t get why you’re so vocal about not wanting Discord to be a thing and SO against it… Yet when you’re presented with the opposite for your own idea, you don’t really sound like you care that much…
Not really… It’s human behaviour… We see it outside of WoW too… Ask people to group up for an assignment and you will see the same outcome… Some people will form “supergroups”, some people will think they are gods gift to the universe… Some people just want to enjoy and have fun.
Blizzard can’t force people to play with each other, nor would I want it… They can put up measures to combat toxicity through report systems, which they already have…
And again… In a state where you just have to realize some people are just not your cup of tea, we can form groups / circles that won’t tolerate that behaviour.
If you reject this notion and feel Blizzard should be able to control human behaviour, be my guest. But this is not a WoW thing, and you’ll be waiting for eternity for that solution
I don’t get it why you want me to embrace it so much, either. I don’t like it, end of story. I don’t want to go into details and this is not what the OP was about.
The other ideas being Discord ? If anyone wants to try it, feel free. But as I said before, this does not solve anything , either. All it does is put players in safe little boxes, away from the issue at hand. The problem still exists. And this requires third party tools, which is pretty weird in itself.
Wait, what ? Where did that come from ? You can do whatever you like in an outside the game, as long as you don’t brake any rules or laws. But when a game is plagued with an issue, it is normal to expect it to be addressed. At least try to to, by any ingame means.
he is correct. same for me. i only do solo content in this expansion. but the good thing is, that once u reach like gearscore 608ish u can do all the delves on lvl 8 no worry. at like 612 u can do the lvl 11 with some struggle.
depends a bit on classes. so… i did it and now i dont really need to progess anymore henceforth the upgrading of gear has no worth atm. i will do my weekly 8 delvs just for the fun and lvling branny boy and im good with it.
You don’t have to. But then the issue is not “Blizzard has to do something”… The problem is Discord.
Was the argument you used, when Puny said other third party apps where used back then too…
Why then go:
You make it sound like you’re searching for a solution to the toxicity… But you aren’t… You’re obviously just combatting Discord for your reasons, which is fine. But then let’s not beat around the bush trying to discuss toxicity.
No. All it does is offer people BY the people a space where they don’t have to go trough the risk of being flamed for stuff.
I feel like had Discord been Tumblr you wouldn’t combat it as hard as you’re doing here. This has nothing to do with Discord being a third party app (Look above), it has to with Discord being Discord and you not liking it.
Which they have? They have literally made a social contract, that people break? What more do you want the game to do?
How can Blizzard make people not be rude? That is completely personal behaviour… It’s bound to happen in almost all multi player games… Damn I’ve even had online FIFA games where people went out of their way to send me private messages…
I will repeat… A company or a person (Unless it’s a Dictator) can’t control human behaviour and or tell you how to treat others… That is self-imposed. So what we can do as players is to find like minded people just like we do outside of the game.
It’s not a lie. You can do Delves in a 1-5 role agnostic solo/group and get vault options. We are all limited by the same upgrade system. We all have points where harder content is required to upgrade to the max.
No it’s not. Discord has nothing to do with Blizzard, or am I wrong ? How is this Discord’s problem ? And it’s not my problem WoW would require third party apps in order to play WoW.
Again with the Discord obsession. I am not combatting Discord, I just don’t use it. And never will. It was although put as the “obvious” solution for a WoW problem. I pointed out it is not a solution, with or without Discord.
Lol. OK. You do you. Why are we talking about this again ?
Now tell me the weather for the next week from your crystal ball.
I don’t know. But fortunately, it is not my job to find out. Leaving it as it is only hurts the game, so it will have to be adressed at some point before it reaches singularity levels and implodes.
Yet you do, to me. Lol. And assume you know things about me. And redirect the whole conversation to a me-problem. Because obviously that will solve everything.
This is the issue. Delvers don’t. Runed crests are drip-fed and Guilded are luck based. The other two pillars don’t have this issue. They play, they get it. We can’t. If you try to get Runed crest capped, you’d have to never log off WoW.
you can convert your other crests into guilded from the NPC once you unlock it.
So it takes more effort and doesn’t rely on drops.
But you can get the gilded crests if you want to.
Ask yourself that? Why was the other third party apps ruled off with that?
There is no “solution”… It’s not meant to be one… It’s meant to be an alternative yet you combat it as if your life depended on it.
Don’t have to, I can go by your replies?
How am I controlling your behaviour? You have free will and can do as you please, or am I wrong?
But it is a you problem. Because you voice a problem Toxic community and when alternatives are presented (Because we will never be able to get rid of toxicity) you go “Nah. Not a solution. Blizzard should do more. IN GAME!! I will not accept third party!! and btw. I don’t care about toxicity, I can live with it. But new people they can’t… But no. They should not go to Discord!!”
I tried giving you different examples of the fact that you will never be able to find a solution for toxicity without micromanaging every person. We can create alternatives, and you combatting it this hard and demanding utopia instead of promoting the communities that are in game and off game as a nice alternative, that… Is wild
Fair point. yet we all have to sign the social contract, and if you’re old enough to accept the terms, I would assume you’re old enough to uphold them.
If not, hey - then Blizzard did put in measures to try and combat that behaviour
I am not gonna go back to quote your brain… splurges. But if you don’t see how, perpahs all you do is try to couter my point without any point other than that.
You lose all credibility after such an answer.
Ask them to sponsor you, you obviously love Discord, that much is certain.
Back then WoW did not have the tools and hardware we have today. I was not happy about using third party app to communicate, either. And we voted on which one to use. It’s 2024 now. Using third party, without alternative, is silly.
And if it’s Discord or the highway, I’d pick the highway. But that’s me. What about it bothers you and is hard to understand?
Right back at you… You somehow claimed I was controlling your behaviour, when asked how you don’t want to prove it… Aight then
I just like that people actually have an alternative and can get to enjoy playing the game they do, without the pressure and toxicity through LFG but sure, this whole thing clearly doesn’t show your bias
The fact that, you said that the difference was that you liked those apps, indicating, that the reason is that you don’t like Discord Kind of hard to understand when you say A and then later go “it’s not A”.
But there is alternatives? Like are you okay? No one is forcing you to use third party?
Puny even wrote, some communities also have IN GAME communities and guilds… The alternative for the third party communities are the in game ones or LFG.
If you don’t like LFG, you don’t want to join the in game, and you refuse to use a third party… Then yikes
