So, what’s your prediction?
Will bg for solo players be enjoyable or will BG be ruled by premades?
I personally think it will start with a good amount of solo players the first day, till Sunday. After that it will ebb down until only the guys who are planning to reach r10+ are left with their premades
People will complain about premades and that will become the next forum boogieman.
People will get the “why aren’t we getting old AV” wheel going again and hopefully they’ll give us AV as it should be.
There will be more threads and comments from bitter Alliance players mocking Horde players crying about queues than actual threads and comments from Horde players crying over queues.
Realm-side it will be business as usual as everyone enjoys BGs and leveling should be a little less exasperating.
I’ll make a lot of gold selling the twink items I’ve been farming.
AV design is in favour to the alliance. The bridge close to their main base. But, I still look forward to epic and endless fights!! Just because its in your favour, doesn’t mean you automatically win.
This is actually a fair prediction. Because it is already what happened in retail.
You see, in retail they made it impossible to queue as a raid for BGs. But quickly after that, an addon came that made it possible to sync the queue timing so the leader queues and the others have their addons queue for them at the same time.
This made it possible to get the majority, if not all, of that premade into the BG. This became “the norm” in retail, kind of like the Spy addon is today.
So the solo players kept getting queued into full premades, which were supposed to have been disabled by Blizzard, yet the addon still made it possible.
So what happened was, Blizzard disabled the addon’s functionality in the API.
But the story doesn’t stop here!
What it led to, with the battlegroups having been removed and the matchmaking basically became a “free for all” with everyone queuing into other regions, and eventually the Spanish/Portuguese servers becoming the only servers meant for another language that could end up in the same team as the EU-English matchmaking pool, the rest were all, and still are, limited to only being opponents unless cross-realm invites into groups swaps over individual players from one region into another regional matchmaking pool.
Sorry for that confusing part, but I hope you’re still reading this.
So what happened was, the SMALLER regions (i.e. the regions that didn’t have as many in the pool to end up in the same team), basically started doing what this aforementioned Addon did, except they did it manually via voice coms and such.
Due to their smaller size in the matchmaking pool, this became much easier compared to the larger one, which is the EU-English pool.
These days, the amount of people, EVEN BEFORE CLASSIC, that queues for BGs in retail has ended up with EU-English actually fading in comparison to the other regions. Why? Well, the answer is simple.
The solo players got overrun by the premades that were left alone to roam free.
It wasn’t possible to report this, because of the automated report system in place since… what was it… since WoD?
Anyway, so it bred apathy and of course the ones saying “it can’t be” even though it is, because not everyone is aware of all of this. So the amount of people required to report these premades when they occurred (there’s a difference between seeing people from the same region only, compared to the ones from the same region acting in a HIGHLY coordinated manner with an RBG-esque setup as well as those times when you’d end up facing the same premade over and over again), never actually reported them. So they flew under the radar, because there is no human oversight for the in-game reports anymore. They are now limited to only reviewing complaints when somebody believes they’ve been punished “unjustly”. Rest is handled by simply having many people report in a short window of time, which automatically indicates “rulebreaking behavior” as perceived by the surroundings, instead of Blizzard needing to use employees to go through each and every case.
Anyway, so there’s a history of this happening already. I still don’t know if there’ll even BE battlegroup matchmaking in classic, or if they’ll use the retail model of where they don’t even keep regions to themselves anymore. (The servers set to a language could only queue into others of the same language until season 14 in MoP.)
But be aware. The automatic reporting is likely to get abused by the absolute tryhards, just as it has been abused for YEARS in rated BGs, as well as the premades reigning supreme.
I’m just glad I’ll be able to fight them back with a proper premade from now on.
It was hell getting the BG achievements that I’ve acquired, due to all of this garbage.
I personally, no matter what, will be looking forward for the prolonged-tedious-painful AV, just to farm that nice rep per kill and do some bits and bobs, here and there.
it will be AV meta, where pugs are crushed by massive premades, but it won’t matter because we are getting nerfed version of AV so no games will last longer than like 10 minutes anyway…
If you queue WSG you will have a bad time I reckon
Instanced content is a dream for botters and afkers.
When you queue up for bgs and see people afkin or botters who get honor by just being prescent it is then you will yearn for open world pvp.
I never played pservers, im speaking from experience in TBC. Take into account the sheer amount of gamemasters who’s been fired, nobody is gonna ban these bots.
Too bad it’s automatic with no proper human oversight though. The only time a human gets involved is when an automatic punishment is complained about.
It appeases the masses, filters out the noise and saves money they’d otherwise have to spend on employees to deal with the report queue.
It can also get abused.
Read the long post above if you’re planning on doing BGs.
The GMs we have are next to useless now, gone are the days of GMs who actually do their moneys worth and sort stuff out.
It’s all automated systems, bots, queues that are days long and people who are only marginally more useful than the bots.
If there is a problem with honour bots, premades and AFKers in BGs it will go unsolved for a long, long time.
Bewarê pretty much summed it up, I can guarantee without a shadow of a doubt premades will become the next big issue (unless of course someone starts raising a stink about HHTD or some other big bad addon that has appeared out of thin air that will destroy PvP or something, god help us).