PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 1)

Very nice write up! I feel it’s just that; they have written the lore with emphasis on conveniences - where things happen due to new content / Expansions needing be justified.

Whereas old Wow; classic and Warcraft lore - while not perfect; was at least consistent as a world.

It’s the Star Wars syndrome; really - we’re new things are retroactively canonized and made to “serve” a function for the new. “See! Domination magic WAS always from the maw due to … -“

I wonder what the next year(s) will do for wow; if it survives - I surely hope they redraw the board on the lore and try to just … make it more consistent.

Leave it to Blizz to need to patch a book.

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How bad was it?

Basically everything that could be wrong with it is wrong. It’s also one of the Kai Leng books.

Also was promised to be fixed in like…2016?

Edit: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBpMF3ONlI308D9IGG8KICBHfWKU0sXh0ntukv-_cmo/preview?pli=1

List of all errors in the book. Red means big errors, blue means smaller.

It’s been a while but if I remember correctly there was, for example, a passage about Kai Leng walking along the surface of Omega looking for an apartment to buy.

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Hahahahaha, what a hot mess they “wrote” themselves in.

They’re deffo gonna ignore this and move on to Exploring Northrend or something!:joy:

This item looks really broken in campaigns and a hell for DMs when its used it crowded areas.

Yes indeed :slight_smile:

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industrial society and its future…

It’s been a plot point since at least Cata how this or that group, good guys or not, are destroying the land and how it’s a bad thing. Especially brought up in shaman and druid themed quests, but I guess it saves time to just handwave it as goblins being goblins.

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I feel like this is more appropriate given the situation as a whole

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For real though, Kalimdor is getting a lot of flak but the EK book was utter dog :poop: too.

Shaw forgetting the Dark Iron were in the Alliance, being invited to Silvermoon and so on. Both books are an utter tragedy that just describe the zones and their quests from 11 years a go.

Utter tragedy.

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Warcraft deserves better than Blizzard.

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It feels really weird, because it all kinda feels unreal/tainted in such a strange way.

I remember that I used to feel happy to say I was a fan of Warcraft as a franchise. And Blizzard in general. And back when Blizzard usually meant high quality and high expectations and delivery.

Nowdays it just means bad.

But at the same time, it feels really dirty to look back on those days too knowing how scummy so many people was there at the time and abused women and co-workers.

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I still remember when I was like twelve years old and was playing world of Warcraft for the first time. I made an orc warrior on my trial account. He was like lvl 4 and I spent hours just running around zones. I still remember how thrilled I was when I reached Ashenvale. Being there after playing through Warcraft 3 made it easily the most magical moment of my gaming life

What happens now gives me some kind of gaming depression, it just makes me so sad bros

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Don’t mind me, just some music to go with the atmosphere.

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Younger self having a blast with WoW : Did you do it?

Current self : Yes.

Younger self : What did it cost?

Current self watching the dumpster fire that is Blizzard : Everything.

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I still remember when I was mostly playing Warcraft 3 with my RL friends, and then one day they talked about World of Warcraft and I’m like, what’s that? And they’re saying that you can be like, anything from Warcraft 3 in third person. I remember asking ‘wow, even the Huntress?’ and yep, they showed me the game later on.

They were in Teldrassil and tried jumping off the waterfalls and yep, they died. Then they missed the body with the wisp and ended up in the ocean and didn’t know where to go. It was such a blast even just spectating in real life, because woah, it’s like Warcraft 3 brought to life!!

For some reason I don’t think new players now actually get the same feeling as I (we?) did. Can’t imagine jumping into soulless (quite literally lol!) zones and being blown away, as it just doesn’t even feel like Warcraft any more.

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Music to listen to while your favorite setting gets obliterated.