I mean, Twitter is also mostly negative at the expansion, from what I saw(I only check the twitter thingies linked in here) and lets not start the topic on the like/dislike ratio on WoW cinematics since BFA… You’d think they learn eventually, right?
Also a serious question; with Shadowlands basicly done now, what now? Overall the consensus is that this was, storywise, a very, very bad addition to the overal lore of WoW! So how do you think roleplayers and story-fans should continue on from this?
My personal take is that this should be ignored in every shape and form! I won’t judge people if they do include beats from Shadowlands in their RP, but my chars(even my DK) will have one big “?” above his head…
(And trust me, I am no fan of ignoring lore, but for my own sanity, I see no otherway)
I still can’t get over how ultimately pointless Shadowlands was/is with this ending.
Like yeah, it was terrible writing/bad and I thought fully it was a mistake, but they were boasting so much how this was to be the epic ultimate conclusion to Warcraft’s first chapter/building up from 30 something years of games.
And it’s literally an awful cliffhanger. As someone else said, it’s a filler episode.
You can skip the entire Shadowlands and it wont impact the story.
The portal that the Jailer used to travel from the Sanctum of Domination to Zereth Mortis reopened and the energy travelled through that, since the Sanctum can be found in Torghast.
The Jailer’s chains tore the Guardian of the First Ones from an unknown location to the Sanctum of Domination. However, 9.2 makes it apparent that the Guardian was likely torn from Zereth Mortis. Perhaps the Jailer’s chains served as a conduit for Azeroth’s soul then, especially if they could reach Zereth Mortis prior to the opening of the portal to Zereth Mortis?
Blizzard didn’t think too much about it, so neither should we. They commissioned this sick cinematic and they weren’t going to bench it due to continuity issues, so we should just suck it up.
Won’t they make a big plot point of Anduin the Holy, benevolent monarch of all the land falling to Evil very publically and becoming an Arthas (one of Azeroth’s greatest monsters) copy until he changed his mind?
Won’t his people, who spoke openly of their dismay at his leadership in Legion, react poorly to their Scourge King returning to take the throne from the Lightblessed regent Turalyon, hero of Azeroth who fought for us for a thousand years against literal demons??!?
Dragon Isles being the final patch of BfA, having the alliance and horde still be hostile to each other leading to void stuff and Murozond getting c*rrupted could’ve been good. Then following that up with the standalone Azshara expansion could also have been good.
I say could, not would, since it would still be written by the same people.
Same here. It’d be like ignoring a meal the cooked didn’t think too much about when I paid good money (and coupons) for it. If they don’t wanna deal with constant criticism, then they better start writing a good narrative because I will not stop until my emotional attachement is completely severed and they’re getting close to it.
I do not look forward to the stupidly maneufactured Alliance Civil War, they’ve already missed that train in BfA.
Can’t wait Human Vs Humans and the other factions are there too conflict because this is the most predictable stuff out there. Turalyon will be loved and awesome for the nobility, churches and the Light-sided military who’ll turn against maw-tainted Anduin and think he’s damned for abandoning his people (even though he got Mannapped) while the God King Turalyon has lead everyone to the new age of Sig- I mean of the Light as they retook the Eastern and made it great again. Nelves won’t be spared from it as being the dogs in leash of Anduin’s base personality and offer more of their lives to the Alliance (Repeat the mantra : There’s as many elves as the story needs regardless of their dire circumstances). Genn will again treat Anduin like the surrogate son that he is to him and throw everything he’s got for the True High King of Skyr- I mean, Stormwind. If lucky Gnomes and Dwarves will get an appearance doing what they stereotypically do and what tiny amount they do will be more compelling and consistant than anything else somehow.
However what I wrote above has consistency, it has a throughline and compelling set-up. Danuser & Co will most definitely subvert our expectations, trust him.
Which they’ll bungle as it’s too sensitive a subject and nothing like humans fighting nonhumans coded as other humans and they’ll be too cowardly to cross lines and make it exciting.
Read: purges but it’s okay because the remaning forsaken are completely dehumanised from their desolate council, kind, frail zombie grandma into their Darkshore model “CAN YOU HEAR THE SCRREEEAMS?!” twisted killer portrayal.
Calia gets a moment of “these are my people?!” while looking down at her corpse bride mannequeen hands and what she chose to become but is reassured by Derek who’s suddenly a thing again. Hints of zombie romance and setting up their eventual coronation.
Team Vengeance (50% of the remaining 10% of night elves) goes rogue and needs to be put down by Tyrande in person, having seen the error of her ways in blaming the Horde.
Genn pulls a Liam to save Anduin’s life from Turalyon’s sword and has a dramatic ending because everyone who won’t let go of the faction war must be removed from the lore.
Don’t exist other than being wacky sidekicks operating the tech the medieval humans won’t learn.
I forgot this was a thing. I remember thinking this would be a council of thirteen type of deal, skullduggery and shrewd forsaken representatives from military to clergy and everything in between that handles the Forsaken empire.
It’s not actually a bad thing to show Forsaken as thinking beings with old attachments and humanity rather than an entirely depersonalised Cult of the Dark Lady, looking to have a functioning government in her absence.
They’d just have to show the friction between zombie gramma and the cartoon villain demographic of which the apothecaries certainly have an investment in the industry of plague and war as much as arm replacement. The undead war machine runs deep and so does fear of The Living.
These are complicated, political things that you can only hope to be handled in a novel, never ingame.
It used to. The whole Defias issue with Stormwind’s provinces, the disconnect between nobility and the people, or the friction between Grimtotems and Thunder Bluff, or the whole schism between Fandral Staghelm’s druids and Moonglade’s druids and so forth. Big and small flavourful things that wasn’t necessarily some amazingly complex political game but it was there, there was tension within the factions.
