PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 2)

While there is some logic there, “we can’t criticise the new management for up to two years because the next expansion is similar to the current expansion” is a little too much for me to stomach. While I’m willing to believe that Danuser had some creative control over War Within, I’m unwilling to believe that Metzen has none.

Besides, it’s not like Metzen was never in charge of any story that involved previously unknown regions with previously unknown inhabitants.

In the end, I just advise against hero worship of Metzen and attributing all of the blame to someone who is now out of the picture, just so that the reputation of someone who represents the good old days can remain untarnished.

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Then it´s a good thing that I never said that.

If only they would change the status quo in Kalimdor, reflecting it in the game showing us what were the canon wins and loss. A change in the frontier lines and so on. The relocating, the new trenches built to stave off Horde incursion as they too reinforce the ground they’ve claimed. Stop telling me, show me!
PS : I’m certain that train has been forever missed.

He managed to pull off MoP… A strange land that is very familiar nonetheless with Old Gods servants, Titan constructs, Wild Gods all while giving you exploration and war content here and there. MoP continues to win and I look forward to its classic release.

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Kalimdor in Warcraft 3, more than half of every zone in Vanilla, every zone in Outland outside of Hellfire Peninsula, every zone in Northrend besides Icecrown and Dragonblight, Uldum, Deepholme, Pandaria, most of pre-Outland Draenor…

And that’s without counting the entirety of Azeroth as a whole, considering that he’s the one who conceptualized it to begin with, including its first ever world map in 1999. The man has definitely dealt with previously unknown regions and its inhabitants considering that he made said fictional setting.

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Do I have good (or bad?) news for you!

The new Status Quo is the same as the old one in Ashenvale.

Horde has their 2-3 bases, night elves have the rest and there’s fighting against eachother.

Azshara has the night elves attacking the Horde (like in Cata).

Only place that has really changed is Darkshore, but that win is the same as the Alliance win/week.

Night elves patrol, Horde is driven out, there’s still some trolls up north, there’s Blight around.

Now I’m sad :frowning:

Constant land concessions to a relentless belligerent and a slow creep of expansion until the current state of the Horde being the hegemonic superpower with a colonial empire and mastery of the sea.

That plucky underdog vibe is kinda gone.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGHxA5jasAA5qhH?format=jpg&name=medium
Season of Discovery adds renegade NElves that are assassinating Alliance marshals because they don’t like the A’s any more than the H’s.

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Wat. The. Freck?

This is based. I like this.

Shame its classic and not retail😩

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While I think the ship of “Alliance is no better than Horde from night elf point of view” has sailed, hit a rock, sunk, blew up and had damnatio memoriae declared on it at this point, I recall seeing someone from Blizzard saying that quests from SoD are very much canon, they just weren’t something our characters got to experience in Vanilla.

So, if people want to utilize this lore, they can.

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I mean, in retail the Alliance is 100% the better option for the NElves. Culture-wise maybe not back then, but overall for their people?

Yea, 100%

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The Original Badass Amazons™ reduced to banditry while their civilization integrates into the faction war.

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Cool lore, hope it will make it onto Retail at one point!

Back to the true OG WC3 night elf roots.

Tyrande Whisperwind : So, these orcs and humans presume to run rampant through our lands? They will regret ever stepping foot into Ashenvale. We will establish a base and deal with these outlanders as they deserve.

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Technically with the way they’ve phrased SoD lore as tidbits that are canon but previously unexplored, this is canon to retail.

But I agree they should put all the SoD stuff (and also all of vanilla) into retail, along with all the other deleted content over the years.

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WoW 2.0 boys/girls/other, lets goooo…

Pass the Weapons Grade Copium :')

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Wait, what. So this whole new Blood Moon extravaganza in Stranglethorn is canon too?

What is that Blood Moon thingy anyways?

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Hakkar’s power manifesting itself as his summoning progresses within Zul’gurub and the Temple of Atal’Hakkar, from what I understand.

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Oh god no, don’t bring back the Nelf-supremacist rp’ers that were actively hostile to the rest of the Alliance just for existing. Some things should stay gone.

I think Travelers stated there were NElves still hostile to the Alliance aswell, all the way up to MoP…

Telaryn knows the finer details about that :stuck_out_tongue:

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