can you tell your uncle to give us more glaives on swords plz thanks.
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And FFXIV too. WoW needs a recurring cast of adventuring friends who are not faction leaders, like Dragon’s Watch and the Scions. As it stands, it feels like the faction leaders in WoW are too busy spelunking to do any actual leading.
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It also deals with the much-griped about issue of “Why do the Faction Leaders turn up all the time and are either Useless or Godmode?”
Well established powerful characters turning up once in a blue moon to level a battlefield is, I think anyway, much less likely to cause upset than “Oh, here’s X again, guess the day is saved already”. Or, alternatively “What do you mean they just got one-shot?”
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yeah my sole reason for not mentioning that really is because the WoL’s on a buddy basis with nearly every faction leader. (The gw2 protag by comparrison isnt and often buts heads with them but as your aware of the guilds name your likely aware of that yourself.)
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smodur did nothing wrong
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The thing that gets constantly annoying is that WoW often does create fairly interesting side-characters, but then just leave them exactly like that.
Alot of the times it feels like the “Old crew” of characters from Warcraft’s early days are just the developers OC’s they keep wanting to be shown constantly getting more stuff and experiences. Like a DM who regularly brings in their own old characters from other campaigns and have the world fawn for them and give them titles and attention. All while the actual players just kinda stand there.
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It’s another Jaina episode.
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That’s because they are. Illidan and Uther were based on Samwise Didier’s D&D characters.
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I would absolutely welcome an expansion in which the Horde & Alliance don’t interact with each other at all.
Edit:
It all makes sense now.
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jaina should be looking after her kingdom instead of galavanting around. these faction leaders are always off travelling and getting into 
instead of actually looking after their nations
no wonder the world is in such a dire state all the time
Not sure if this is a hot take or not, but I’m not entirely onboard with Alleria’s new “void hunter” look.
Now don’t get me wrong, it looks absolutely amazing and detailed. Her hair in particular is something I wish we’d get something as well, or at least something resembling it. But it looks sort of… futuristic? Like her outfit would be more at home in Starcraft almost?
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the burning crusade curse
She’s too close to the Ethereals.
I liked her ‘old’ model more, not gonna lie. Ah well.
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I will never not find it strange that she was put in charge of two separate factions/groups when she also wronged them both. She stole from Kirin Tor to go on a murder spree and tried to destroy an entire city. She gets rewarded by being made the faction leader.
Then she returns to the kingdom in which she is despised to the point of Legend because of killing their leader(or passively allowing it). She patches things up with her mum almost immediately, and then is given command of the entire nation for absolutely no reason (Katherine was fully fit to rule and still beloved).
Both times she was given leadership for absolutely zero reason.
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She’s a figurehead of Kul Tiras. Her mum’s still actually in charge.
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Go ahead. Be imperator. All you gotta do is rip out my throat…
Smodurs mistake was that he didnt go for Ryland over Cinder first. Two birds one stone.
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That’s slightly better but still a little odd.
I do like that they patched things up as a family, but I do feel like the Kul Tiran population accepted that awfully fast.
The faction-specific segments of BFA really felt like they fell pray to the Skyrim “Look, we have mileage for one Whole plot, not two, and Yet Here We Are” thing.
I think Jaina’s homecoming was a decent plot hook, and there’s still moments I love, but at the same time I don’t think its beyond improvement.
Same could be said for Zandalar, though there’s also a lot of argument to be made there of “Should Zul have been thrown under the villain bus, or was he already there anyway?” and “Why introduce Rastakhan in person just to kill him off/did that actually serve the long term purpose worse?”
Edit: I personally think vanishing Jaina outside her specific arc was stupid. Throw her in jail → player convinces everyone Ashvane is evil → Jaina is allowed out under watch, since the prison is under scrutiny since it was owned by Ashvane → Jaina helps with the Stormsong situation, both reconnecting a little with her roots and earning, if not trust, then at least a “Well, I suppose she helped, this time” grudging acceptance → Drustvar and THEN she gets nabbed by Gorak Tul as a living magical battery.
Her just winding up in Thros was… weird. The actual segment itself, where Katherine gets to see her actual past experiences and feel the wracking guilt was Good. But the steps to get there? Ehhhh…
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Can you quote any canon source on this? As far as I recall Katherine very clearly stepped down from her position as Lord Admiral (who is the official ruler of Kul Tiras) and gave the title to Jaina in BFA.
Granted right after we spanked N’zoth she’s been busy getting kidnapped and then girlbossing in Torghast, but she’s been ruling her new kingdom since she came back to girlboss on Azeroth.