On russian servers play not even russians. There are a lot of russian speak countries around Russia(see map) and they play on this servers and it is quite big players pool.
There is near to 100ppl rank grinders who stuck on premades for honor farm. Some ppl who already farmed 13-14r - leave, some new people came, but they have less people every month. Others players (who not stuck) play like EU: some people for pvp fun, some for afk honor/rep leech.
Horde wins more than 90% AV games, how offen do you meet premade and lose? Once a week? Horde need 100%? Can’t play against non-afk and need free wins? Russians have big alliance pool, and if Blizzard split them - they don’t care(as won’t care Blizzard, because it is ~100 ppl from thousands), but EU horde will stay in queues longer for all BG’s. Or you think they group all their servers online to prevent horde 100% AV win stats? And remember, they can’t do premade for 40ppl, just for 15-25(others just random players and afk leachers).
Funny fact: Ally EU players won’t agree with horde, because russian horde weak and EU alliance have good chances to win.
If Blizzard just stop AB premades(or merge RU to EU pool), all their premades will go to other BG’s.
Impossible to know the actual impact without server data, but I doubt the Russian pvpers are enough to cause any real dent in the wait time.
Keep in mind, for every Russian alliance player and every Russian horde player, they cancel each other out. Remove 1 of each every time, and then it won’t even affect the queue times.
It’s not the total amount of players that determines queue times. It’s the amount of players queuing up on one faction compared to the other faction queueing up that determines the queue times. So when there’s more queuing up on one faction, it tilts the queue times. Get it?
Not that many. Just a few. And they can still play on Russian realms even if they do separate them, so what are you trying to say? They just wouldn’t be able to use cyrillic letters in their names anymore if they still want to play in the EU matchmaking pool. Good riddance.
I’ll ask you this question too:
And keep in mind, the cost for game time is CHEAPER for the Russian game client in Rubles (the Russian currency) than it is for the EU game clients in Euro. There are many who knows Russian who would still prefer to play on Russian realms just because of that little fact, even if they do separate the realms from the EU matchmaking pool.
Besides, as I mentioned many times in phase 1 and 2 of Classic, queue times are a natural balance motivator. If one side suffers extreme queue times to the point of frustration, or for example the AQ gate opening being much slower than everywhere else, it’ll push the excess of that faction to the lesser faction just to get rid of that frustration.
There were many who did it the first month of BGs. There have surely been people who did it since then too. It’d be the same on the uneven Russian realms as well, they’d become motivated to play Horde and naturally balance out the population better if they’d be stuck only facing each other.
You guys yourself asked to separate Russian-speaking players from English-speaking players in the BG relise phase of the wow classic. This AV premades from RU alliance just a Karma.
BTW most of players in RU AV premades just bad at present days, most of skilled pvp players alrdy got their pvp ranks and not playing AV, they doing world pvp or AB / WSG premades just for fun.
Also i want to talk about event from real ru speaking Alliance pvp players few weeks ago, we called it “AV 76”, like Fallout 76 but worth for EU horde. It was 10 hrs AV blood bath, and many players asked at Reddit and at this forum, what we farmed there? We farmed only TEARS.
Video from AV 76 event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLKA0ZwVOKw&feature=youtu.be
You’re just showing why you should rightfully be separated completely instead of this haphazard measure. They did several hotfixes to indirectly prevent premades by the larger matchmaking pools, it’s now time they deal with your side too.
It’s time for Blizzard to take a proper stance on it. Once and for all.
The audacity to come to the official forums and brag about cheating and griefing should be enough proof for Blizzard that this is actually a serious problem. Thank you for your effort in providing the evidence.
Cry again, all the same Where is cheating? Players just joined BG from different servers, someone spamed discord server in BG chat, players joined to discord and event. About “griefing”, my dude, in my days it was called “resskilling” or “gank”, its when someone corpsecamping poor noobs and its part of the game and its not breaking any rules.
We gave the horde a chance to regroup in the cave and throw us away many times, they failed, and they failed not coz we was in voice chat, its not important in 40v40 fight, they failed coz they joined to AV for FARM like u did (im shure u one of this backpedalers and slaves of honor system), and we joined for PvP only,
that’s why the eu horde didn’t go further than twenty meters from the cave within 10 hours.
keep repeating this to yourself ten times an hour, and the Blizzard will do as you want.
If you want to win BG you need to focus on a PvP, im shure many players thinking only about farm, bg marks, hph etc, that why they loosing.
When Horde crying about lose at AV it makes me laugh. Horde have everything to crush any AV premade.
p.s I hope u dont need to farm AV at this weekend.
“Have fun facing only your fellow countrymen soon.” i dont care, realy.
When it comes to the Russians exploiting, cheating in AV for months now Blizzard don’t care at all. They’re happy to punish their customers though pretending to bann bots to make a cheap buck but any actual issues with the game and they don’t give a damn.
I report Russians for cheating and I advise everyone else to do the same, if I end up in an AV with 15 R12/13’s on Alliance side I report every single one of them.
How many russian r12-14 players you see on this screenshot from last av that ended 10 min ago?
https:// imgur. com/LsOYsdh
The most dangerous players its not ppl with r13 r14 dead brain AV farmers, most dangerous its r10 wrold pvp players who playing BG also but just for fun, for pvp and for victory.
Today all normal pvp players ranking at WSG / AB premades, if you see russian r12-14 players at AV prem its mostly braindead noobs who can only run after the mark ( i remember once i stole mark from RL and put on alterac ram and “premade” stuck near ram for 1-2 min lmao), so if EU horde cant crush such a “premade” they are weak too, and when eu horde have enought real pvp players its ez 15-20 min game for them.
I like meeting Russians in AV. It’s quick honor and a high win chance for the alliance. I wouldn’t want them to be moved to a seperate battlegroup.
No. There are similar issues with Latin character based names aswell, so it’s hardly unique for the Russians. Wanting blizzard to implement transliteration of names from one of their supported languages to another in the same battlegroup does not mean you have to support the same functionality to/from non-supported languages, or languages outside the battlegroup.
Cyrillic is hardly unintelligible. Many of the most common characters are close or identical to their Latin counterparts, and it’s not very hard to get enough knowledge of Cyrillic to be able to read/transliterate it to the Latin alphabet fairly quickly. Especially not if you already know the Greek alphabet, which is frequently used by scientists worldwide. Reading many Russian names is certainly not much harder than some Latin based names of players who have gone out of their way to create hard to read/type names.
/target can be a problem in wsg if you are struggling to target the flag carrier, but that’s pretty much where my issue with russians being in the same battlegroup starts and ends for me. That could, and should be solved by blizzard by implementing automatic transliteration rather than seperating them into their own battlegroup.
Did you read it yourself? One would think that the skill level Russia is ranked at would be enough for communicating in battlegrounds, as they are considered able to fulfill these tasks:
Navigate an English-speaking country
as a tourist
Engage in small talk with colleagues
Understand simple emails from colleagues
Nothing in pug bg’s requires any more than that. The only issue I experienced while the russians was grouped with the rest of us was non-russians harrassing them.
That’s all fine until you are up against a premade consisting of these names:
Bae, Båe, Bàe, Báe, Bâe, Baè, Bæ, Bàè, Báè etc.
If someone wants to make a name that is hard to communicate they can also just bash their hand/head on the keyboard when creating the character anyway. Like this: yfgdhøæmnjh, or Bnnbmca to use your own example.
just for your information. there is also quite many rank 12/13s in non russian alliance groups you just dont happen to face them because they are all nightelves or rogues leeching honor in corners for cap
Ok, you know what? You let me know how many EU players you see using names like those in your example in BGs, then compare it to how many BNnbMca in BGs on the Russian side. Mkay?
Also, you have to write it as BNnbMca because they look nothing like the lower case letters sometimes. You have to make clear distinctions there.
So check out all those names in all those BGs, and go compare the amount of -
that you see, versus the amount of -
that you see. *BNnbMca btw. Also, for the record, the ones with “proper” names like Joe but with a danish O, or AEris but with that danish AE, they don’t count for this. It needs to be something hard to communicate, like your exaggeration: “yfgdhøæmnjh” with a nonsensical order of consonants.
(Or if it’s Norwegian letters, it’s whatever.)
It’s not hard to replace that o with a cut through it to say O when calling out a name as long as the rest makes sense, but when it’s nonstop names like:
Некарт
Джиглипу
Блэклок
and so on, it becomes very hard to communicate properly with each other. “Uh… Go on… That… Uh… Mix between a B and a b, n but with a curve, E but backwards in a weird font, K, again that n with a curve, O, K. Ok, go on him guys!!”
Ez, right?
Or “Uh… Ok, now swap to… That A but not an A, it’s some weird hieroglyph, and X but with another vertical line down the middle, and N but mirrored, then T but without the line to the left, and then n with a curve, then another mirrored N, and then some kind of box but without the underline, and then y. We swap to him in 5 seconds!”
Totally doesn’t disrupt the flow of communication. You can’t even quickly think of what they look like and then communicate that to others while also expecting them to make that same interpretation of the cyrillic letters.
And that’s just when having them as targets.
On your own team, or in the same PvE group, it’s kind of hard to talk to them unless they know proper English.
Also please feel free to say how many premades you’re up against where they got a lot of similar names like a multiboxer, in your example there.
Meanwhile
Yep, totally. He can totally communicate in, and understand English. For sure.
If you’re not going to accept that they have an abnormal amount of people who either can’t or won’t use English to a level where they can communicate their intentions properly, and can’t understand it when YOU communicate what you want to say to them properly, then you’re delusional. You little SJW freak.
Also, just for the record Russia was ranked lower than both South Korea and China. Those are not exactly places that are swarming with people knowing English, you know? Translators are in high demand there.
It’s very unintelligible.
It’s completely insane to expect the entire EU battlegroup should need to LEARN ANOTHER ALPHABET just to be able to play it properly. Go learn Persian first, let me know how that went. Go learn Chinese symbols too while you’re at it. Should be easy, right? Don’t forget the Greek alphabet too.
Oh look, another nonsensical claim.
Ok, let’s take a look at this claim, shall we?
At any point in time, there’s a limited number of people that can have such high ranks per server. The odds of them ending up randomly in the same AV in excess numbers, meaning more than the average, is highly unlikely. Especially with Russian realms, since they’ve only got few realms to begin with and a much more limited number of people with those ranks at any moment in time.
Something you SJW’s are also neglecting to acknowledge, is this:
Illiteracy is a thing. This won’t go anywhere until you come to realise that fact.
Where is cheating? Players just joined BG from different servers, someone spamed discord server in BG chat, players joined to discord and event. About “griefing”, my dude, in my days it was called “resskilling” or “gank”, its when someone corpsecamping poor noobs and its part of the game and its not breaking any rules.