Honestly, we didn’t take any of the Blood Elf visuals. Because we’re not the ones developing the game. That is Blizzards mistake.
They were requested by fans, however. And Blizz eventually caved to the demands.
I didn’t like the new fleshy tones and Quel’dorei blue eyes either, but it makes sense lore wise so I have accepted it. I use them for my half-elves as it’s convenient, but I would never change the skin tone of any of my Void Elves. They went through the Durzaan incident and their features are a proof of it, it wouldn’t make sense for me to change that
I dont mean the fans took it as such
But it was advocated for by fans
Honestly, I was requesting for the natural hair tones, but I was hoping that the colours could be a little more unique instead of a copy/paste.
Well I mean, logic and common sense says they did not write the story of the rts so that years later, in an mmo, in a post launch expansion, the horde got blood elves.
I mean reflect on that for a second.
If I upset you I am sorry.
But you do need to appreciate that your theory is extremely out there.
I have began to feel very pessimistic about us getting along to be fair. I am a Void elf fan who is High elf leaning and I do not care about lore. I appreciate much of the lore of this game, but do not prioritize it by any means whatsoever. You are a void elf fan who is anti leaning in that you do not care for the High elf theme, and put waaaay too much value into fantasy lore. Of course we are going to clash when it comes to these. And while I aim to be civilized, seeing people act disrespectfully will trigger me in return.
I also do not know how everything actually went down, but one thing is for sure there was a really huge Asian poll back in Vanilla requesting a femme pretty race on the Horde, since the Horde had no nice looking races at that time. So lore was forged to establish the Blood elves being in the Horde. Nothing particularly wrong with that, but it reinforces my claim that fantasy lore is just that, fiction made up by someone for certain reasons. People seem to forget this at times and argue endlessly with each other (as happened above) over WoW lore.
I guess it depends how serious you take it all.
Its just debate about what someone else does with the game at the end of the day.
Maybe high elves will be their own race.
Maybe they will be part of void elves.
Maybe no more will ever happen.
Neither of us have control over it.
Let’s just say how we feel on the topic without it being a personal issue.
The way I see the lore is that blood elves were not happy with either faction so going to one over the other made as much sense as the other one.
So horde works for story wise without an agenda being needed.
But as I’ve said several times.
The alliance has non blood, non void elves in it.
So them being a thing isn’t a non factor
Plus
World of Warcraft became playable in China June 7th 2005
Blood Elves were introduced as a Horde race at end of October 2005
So we have less then a five month difference.
Would they really plan years in advance, in a different game for that?
Don’t bring the lore up next time you want to make point then, because some of the people you talk to know it
Which eliminates your previous affirmation that the Garithos plot in Warcraft 3 was made to justify the Blood Elves joining the Horde during The Burning Crusade.
That’s all for me, I’ll leave you alone now and won’t interact with you anymore, pinky promise.
I’ve gone up and deleted some of my above posts so as to keep the thread as civil as possible as I acknowledge some of my statements were out of line.
While an annoying stance
I do have respect for those that say “I dont care about the lore. This is cool. I want it. Please make it happen”
Like it’s owning the issues around it, and just saying they would be happy.
Hard to argue with that.
I have no problem with players who don’t care about the lore, I didn’t either when I started playing back during TBC. What makes no sense to me, is saying that they don’t care about the lore while using it to make wrong statements
Going back and admitting they were wrong about it is commendable though, I can’t deny it
I do agree with that.
I’m a lore fan and I assume you are too.
We know a lot of the story.
And when we get proven wrong, it’s not a negative, its a good thing.
Because now we got our knowledge improved.
So arguing with someone that doesn’t care does feel a bit blegh
Because no-one grows
This is where it’s mentioned about the Chinese/ Korean poll.
Now I’m off to bed because contrary to fictional lore I am more interested in maintaining what little real life I have left.
That is foreboding. I am not good usually at knowing what to say to stuff like this but… don’t do anything stupid, please?
Take care of yourself.
I dont know I read it the same way, but if I’m wrong, I will say something, and it’s truth.
I admire their dedication to wanting high elves.
This game is a passion to us all so expressing it to devs is something worthwhile.
Please don’t take any disagreement as a personal attack.
We all want different things from the game but mainly we all want to enjoy it
What? They are not. Horde are racist.
read title, Quel’dorei high elves as alliance allied race Such as Silver Covenant high elves.
True true.
They aren’t “technically” high elves. There are the high elves and they are in the alliance. Such as Silver Covenant.
No, void and blood elves were changed by fel and void magics so they are not high elves anymore.
new model for what exactly? People want high elves not new model for high elves. And again, give everything except what is asked…
Most Blood Elves have stopped using fel ever since the Sunwell was restored. That’s why their eyes are turning back to blue and they regained their High Elves features. Genetically, they are still Quel’dorei.
But they are. Can you link a source to say Void Elves and Blood Elves are not High Elves?
Right, and Orcs drank Mannoroth blood. Does that mean they aren’t Orcs anymore?
No like for example if your friends house is burning and your promised to help him. while you are helping him another friend comes and says “Your house is on fire and burning rapidly and your kids are still in it”. Well what do you do. Still help your friend and let your kids die. (And don’t lie) No of course not. you tell friend that you have to get home and save your kids. and your friend goes “But you promised to help me!!” and then you say “Im sorry but I can’t be in two places at once”. You leave and go back home and save your kids and home, well what was left of it. You go back to your friends who who managed to take out the fire by himself but blames you for everything.
Same scenario for the humans. The High elves had their shield was up but things were around was burning in Quel’thalas so their people were not in danger. The humans got message that their home was going to be attacked, that the horde had moved on to Lordaeron and without the army’s support it would fall. So naturally the humans move back home to defend it and the High elves felt left stranded. Even though the High elves outnumbered the Amani trolls. They still felt betrayed even if the shield was holding so their people were not in any danger and there was no way for the Amani trolls to pass that shield.
And the high elves managed to push the Amani trolls back to their home in Zul’aman. And only a few trees got burned to the ground, so what trees burns and new ones grow out. Its the way of nature.
So it was childish of Anasterian to leave for the lost of a few trees.
The Amani however they were the ones that were betrayed. Doomhammer left and the horde because they felt bored and didn’t want to continue anymore cause it was a loosing battle. Doomhammer knew they were never going to pass that shield and morality was hanging by a thread. And they left the trolls undefended. The trolls had no shield to protect them. So they just tried to damage everything they saw but it failed and they were outnumbered by the High elves and pushed hard back into Zul’aman and we didn’t see them again until cataclysm expansion.