Raid Adjustments Discussion

Nerf before next phase is released?? WTF BLIZZ… Hope you take this feedback serious and don’t make things easier until NEXT phase!

Holyf…

Not everyone have a kids, and many of those who have kids can deal with 2 raid nights per week. Go play retail if u can’t spend 6 hours per week to raid… Or find a different hobby, or just take care of your kids and quit gaming.

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The progression is the most fun part, to actually have to work together, communicate, improve etc… I am in a 9/10 guild, and if they nerf things now when we are getting close to 10/10… People will leave cus that is such a slap in the face for those who work hard to kill these bosses. You will have your nerfs in T6… Until then stop crying.

i think its a good idea, to many players have quit the game and with SoM coming soon more will quit, making the content more accessable is a good idea, though removing some of the trash in ssc / tk could also help the more casual guilds as well

I remember when netherspite and co got nerfed in P2 of karazhan… what a snoozefest they are now… can we please wait for P3 with it so people are not forced to run it and move on with T6 instead of looting those snoozefest nerfed versions for a couple of months?

its the final boss not acces :smiley:

if at all they could do attunements account wide this is stuff that keeps people away from spaming alts and not because they cant kill the final boss with the worst raid possible

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man account wide attunements would be awesome

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also heroic keys for honored already. we also have the pvp blue set for h onored.

in the past revered made sense since people really had to grind and heroics were a big thing for many player.

nowadays we do them on fresh toons and by the time you grind revered for heroic keys you most likely dont even need loot anymore.

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no, this would be a bad change

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I don’t want the nerf now but I do think it should come when MH/BT comes.

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There is no need to nerf the raids. More and more teams are killing the end bosses as they pick up more gear from the previous bosses.

I very much liked the initial plan of nerfing the content after a release of a new phase. SSC and TK nerfs will be very much welcome when we get to progress MH and BT but until then I don’t feel like it’s needed at all.

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Lots of great comments and ideas in this thread. First of all thank you Blizzard for listening.

Please don’t nerf the content mid season. You can nerf the trash (as Richdude described, there is a lot of annoying stuff) or make the runback after dying significantly faster. This would honestly be a great change that everybody would support.

Thanks for TBC and keep communicating with the community, please, daddy Blizz.

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I would stick to the plan and nerf the bosses when the next phase releases.

with easier bosses then the ppl that couldnt do t6 pre quests are then able to do it. and since vash is the hardest encounter pre sunwell Black Temple + hyjal will be easier.

Any Guild that killed Vash will get through hyjal and black temple at some point.

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Prefer no nerfs at all - but if they have to come then no earlier than P3.

And you are playing a warlock in TBC , yea so much effort.

Playing a certain class has nothing to do with progressing.

Every raid needs a good ret paladin also for seal twisting.

It’s all about having a proper setup, and knowing how to play your class.

Even if the raid content is easy people would still go for BIS setups, look at the min/maxing in classic WoW vanilla and 25 warrior stacking.

Almost none of the guilds priod gear to ret paladins or boomkins over better performing classes.

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It has , playing a lock in tbc is like playing a dk in 3.0 and 3.1 , it is easy and no effort , and no , you don’t need rets in tbc .

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I’ll say it again. Take a GOOD look on wlogs.
You’re taking Asia into consideration that is playing different kind of game with wow token and additional adjustments.
After you take Asia out it leaves you with EUNA which is 9387 guilds with at least one boss kill. Out of those 2808 are 10/10 and 6579 are 1-9/10 = 30% of all EUNA guilds are 10/10. 70% are 1-9/10. 8/10 are 40% of it.

what is more effort then?

Smt than can’t put it’s rotation on a mousewheel.