their extra pala buff and the 3% raidwide crit are good, and its better to bring a ret to do those things than a 2nd holy or prot
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i dont play this warlock anymore because it’s boring. not like any class is much more effort apart from getting gold for blacksmithing
some classes are fun. i recommend ret for seal twisting, keeps u semi engaged, and rogue because having to think on the spot about when to refresh expose etc etc is pretty fun
nah classes aren’t really fun, ur output is what makes it enjoyable. and retri is awful at overall damage
Or just get one more hunter for way more dmg that that 3% , or shaman if you want best utility.
Except that 1 hunter would also mean you lose out on a 3rd paladin blessing. 3 paladins is worth a lot, and running double pala tank is pointless, running double holy is pointless. Might as well bring a Ret.
The 3% crit, extra blessing and extra judgement more than make up for the difference in damage between a ret and a huntard.
Double holy is only pointless if you have enough other healers available. A ret is not needed if your goal is simply to clear the raids.
In that case nothing except 25 warm bodies with a few random tanks and healers thrown in are TECHNICALLY needed.
Yet certain setups simply do better than others and having Salv, Wisdom and Kings for the casters is quite nice tbh.
As well as Wisdom on boss that the healadin can put up and the Retridin can keep up.
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Thats a bad idea for the same reason as nerfing bosses is a bad idea. You destroy every competitive aspect to the raid if you change any tuning trash or bosses.
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Sure I can appreciate that. What about making the runback significantly shorter?
No , it ain’t that chief.
I don’t normally post, but this is horrible news for the guilds that are currently struggling. Our guild, for example, has for various reasons failed at clearing this raid tier in the time frame that we were expecting. But we are now 9/10 and are making good progress every week, given the limited time we have. Nerfing the content before releasing the next phase will likely be a death sentence for our guild as the morale is already low.
Pleas don’t take away our opportunity to prove that we can do it!
Unlike the rest of the classes who require soooooooo much more effort to press the same number of buttons.
JUST DONT WIPE
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Which boss are you struggling on?
Hey dear Blizzard devs, where is your problem?
Are you just good for nothing?
On my server there are guilds who clearing SSC and TK with alts and some of them started to do the same with second alts…
Raids are already easy and enough nerfed, why you want to ruin this TBC classic to the ground?
I understand there are in WoW Classic certain ppl who are not capable to do SSC/TKm they are simply bad but WHY you want to make TBC raids trivial for worst players in the world?
I know your frustration about bad Retail and you simple don’t want Classic to be good but please DON’T NERF nothing, even in Phase 3 players will get enough gear for SSC/TK.
So PLEASE go to your Shadowlands and leave TBC Classic in peace, if someone is bad… well is bad, reason more to log Retail and to play your adorable LFR…
Thank you for reading !!!
Your loyal customer in last 16 years, but what is enough is enough !!!
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no nerfs, please!
Sure there are guilds doing it with second alts, when you have same team from Vanilla and Naxx, it is no problem to clear on 10th set of alts. They trained on ptr, raid 3-4 days a week…
Trouble starts when you have about 20 regular raiders and other 5 spots are occupied with trials who stay for one or two raids and then dont show up. Also, more than two raid days on progress is mostly no-no for majority of recruits
Not to mention total lack of shamans on our servers etc.
Well shamans can’t buy speedo 58 and nobody else is leveling 1-58, so they’re screwed unless they got loyal guildies to boost them.
the said “nerfs” are linline with what happened back in the day as someone else previously posted patch 2.1 saw major nerfs to ssc/tk and you will see them again … #nochanges etc etc
i applaud those that cleared it 13 years after its release , im amazed with your tenacity and your determination to put IRL on hold to become world 1st pixel remover 
An old blizzard tip :
Dont forget to venture outside Azeroth with ur friends !
AKA LOGOFF AND enjoy life !
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