Becuase Calia says that the city now belongs to the Gilneans and that they’ll take their leave, just as the Alliance helped retake the Undercity and then left, which has now become a Horde only. The new Night Elf city is Neutral so it doesn’t make sense if we have two Alliance citys become neutral with Horde having 0 neutral.
On another nore I also think that they are still working on the city as there are some NPCS that remove all other npcs for an event, it is still very unfinished, I may be huffing Hopium but I really couldn’t stand it if this city remains neutral
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How Warhammer is related to wow?
Anyway it’s very selective thinking: necrons, eldars and tau can work with imperium against common enemy
Hey at least you didn’t get a a few huts with one bed! Poor Nelfs 
No gen was literally doing fine. The civil war did not happen becuase gen ruled unfairly or becuase he was a bad king, it was litterally just becuase crowley got his land cut in half and he though it was worth risking gilneas’ safety to join the alliance. Rejecting that is not bad managment its caution. You just dont like Gen so regardless of the truth you will illogically just claim hes a bad king. Tess is not a step in the right direction shes done basically nothing, shes barely known to the fanbase and shes not a worgen.
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Yeah yet another girlboss moment in this expansion. Genn has always been fierce and cool, but suddenly he turned into a poodle… Really Blizzard?
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I am almost glad they made this patch .
Been reading the threads about it and honestly that’s some good 20 minutes of laughing , reading the priceless comments some of the posters leave about it .
Thanks you guys you are better entertainment than Blizzard .
It was just a metaphor. , the 2 faction concept was the focus here.
A metaphor.
Irrelevant. They killed his son that alone should be unforgivable
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They are evil and irredeemable. They treat everyone as if scourge and can’t tell the difference anymore. They are generally the aggressive faction in their related qlines. An expansion about them as the main villains would be awesome
Way to completely misunderstand the entire story
They killed his people, killed his son right in front of his eyes, threw plague barrels in his city.
And they’re throwing plague again in his city.
I just don’t understand how the character can even imagine Horde, let alone forsaken minions, inside his city or helping. Especially after all they did, doesn’t matter who was the leader back then. The individuals are the same.
When you think the writing and coherence hit rock bottom, they manage to dig deeper into the Earth. We will reach the center in no time !
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Right. The kingdom literally got hit by a rebellion, a worgen invasion and a forsaken invasion and Genn had no idea what was happening. The kingdom burned around him but he was “literally” doing fine. Come on. You hear how that sounds. There is nothing illogical about my claims, he’s one of the worst, if not the worst leaders in WoW and that is why I don’t like him. And Tess has been involved in many high profile missions where she took on a role of an intelligence gatherer, something her dad didn’t do and ended up being unprepared for everything that came at him. So give me a break. If you want to whine about Tess, go ahead, just stop tagging me in your whining.
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Forsaken and Worgen fighting side by side to reclaim Gilneas. This is the proof that Blizz story writers are awfull and they have no ideea about WOW history. And they continue with this awfull story of Alliance and Horde dancing together. This is one the most stupid ideas that Blizz story writers could have : Forsaken and Worgen fighting together for Gilneas. Bleaaaaaah.
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Rubbish, orkz and imperium don’t have much in common and there are no nuance here.
Ahem… Did you forget that Genn is the reason many loarderon citizen died and turned into scourge? Or instead of helping against the legion used his time on his personal vendetta against Sylvanas? Or was always putting his people’s needs behind his personal crusade?
Yeah, that sounds like a great King and leader. Reminds me of Sylvanas. But she is bad and doggy good cause alliance… (spoiler, he is just a furry sylvanas).
His oldest son is dead, and he is old. So the only logical person to be his heir, was always his oldest daughter. Not to mention that she always took more care of their people while Genn was chasing Sylvanas like a dog chases a car… Has nothing to do with “GiRlbOsZ” and more with having a brain working for once.
In the Forsaken ranks are Gilneas that died and were raised during that war. They have all reason to fight for their homeland… You don’t seem to know the lore… We even had a storyline and dungeon showing that undead Gilneas are not loyal to Sylvanas
I’m just going to say it.
This quest line was equivalent to the Israeli’s helping the Palestinians reclaim Gaza from the National Socialists.
And after that, the Palestinian leader decided that he was too religious to rule and ceded his title to a girlboss.
Ban me, block me, report me. You know it’s true. This questline is abomination.
The forsaken committed genocide against the Gilneans TWICE!
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You show that you have no idea about the wow lore and coupled it with having no idea about the conflict… Never read so much non sense in one post
But you had to put rl conflicts in a game lore section just for political reasons, didn’t you?
argue for the sake of arguing
As someone who was very invested in Cataclysm lore I’m very sad to see the Gilneans get the treatment they’ve had.
- The Scarlet Crusade feel like copout villains, no explanation given as to how they moved in so quickly especially as they were reeling after the Forsaken heritage quests.
- Feels like they just didn’t want there to be any signs of there still being Forsaken who were just plain vicious, it would have made much more sense for the city to still be shrouded in enough blight for only undead to be able to survive, and Horde quests could have involved using the blight drinking constructs to get rid of it and Calia having to face the truth that some Forsaken created after Cata were made for war and would never change.
- The quests are short and the NPCing of the zone feels half finished, feels like they just ran out of time besides some basic cleaning up of the area. Where other races like Night Evles have had constant development to claiming their future, Worgen have had an hour of content since having nothing since what, Legion? I don’t count Tess and her dream sequence.
- The only thing that made sense was Tess ascending to the throne as out of all the leaders that stepped down to be succeeded by characters who’ll be less central to the lore of the game he’s the one that actually had outdated ideologies. It also frames Tess as a leader who resembles that the Worgen are more than their curse.
- HOWEVER, it seems that Blizzard have knee jerk forced Worgen lore in the direction of the curse being a terrible thing that should die out instead of the original concept of Worgen that the curse does not define them but it does give them strength and for that they have embraced it.
- The Alliance help was also nonspecific, it seems that the Alliance just dispatched a basic Seventh Legion unit to be there as a token force. It would have worked far better if it was a group of Night Elves who came to the aid of the Worgen as those races have always helped each other in the past.
Beyond the base concept that they even remembered Gilneas this content was more of a kick in the shins to the Worgen fanbase than a good resolution to a lot of their races problems. The only way they can fix this now is to show Gilneas develop over future patches. They had a lot of excellent writing that built up to this patch between the Forsaken being a people that may still have rebels/have a means of cleansing blight now while the Gilneans have built up allies along the way but it feels like they just shoehorned content and hoped the cutscene could save it.
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I agree with your points.
The Scarlett crusade was always a “surprise, I m back” villain. Them being like cockroaches, didn’t surprise me they were somehow in Gilneas. Their bases were always near the Undead.
But having the place blighted and needing the help of the Forsaken to clean the place would have been much better. Instead of a fight, a rebuild and cleanse scenario + fight the hardcore sylvanas loyalist which would be a thorn for the Forsaken too.
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