So basically we will be waiting for like 5-6 weeks to upgrade 184 trash items that we will not wear anymore in that time. Added that laughable small weekly conquest caps we will get so far behind in gear for playing pvp its very sad. I hated BFA PVE gearing, but at least we were getting some random drops from time to time. Now its one conquest item for 2 weeks and RNG from great vault. I just got 2 trinkets from great vault and item in which i have my legendary. Thank god i waited one week for medallion.
Please nerf that Renown requirement to 11, it would be more fair that way.
Yesterday i was watching some multi glads who were getting killed by 210+ ilvl pve players. Because thats sad reality, PVP players are far behind on 190+ ilvl while PVE are going above 210 atm. 20 ilvl is huge difference. On high ratings it creates almost unwinnable situations.
You’ve made amazing changes to PVP, we finnaly have vendor but we cant use it very much.
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Beside vendor? What are the amazing changes to pvp that u talk about?
Broken meta, half of specs.
Low conquest cap
Pve raping anyine who cant pve high level or doesnt have 2100rating for best upgrades.
Tell me, beside the pvp vendor, what are the amazing changes for pvp?
M xmas!
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Ofc some classes need tuning like for example convoke in druids, prot paladins in pvp but i like faster pace the most. I like pvp vendor that is back, i like that conquest cap is increasing on alts also so its more alt-friendly. And i like unpruning. And the most important thing for me is that warrior is again pretty good in 2v2, i like 2v2 the most and it was pretty miserable experience in BFA.
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2bad they are overshadowed by the unbalance:)! But its the start, season 2 will be better for sure!
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I believe so too. But we need gearing changes asap, pvp players are already very far behind…
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Blizzard hate pvp forums and players:))/ not hate the people, hate yo work on pvp.
They had good systems, but pve whiners got to them.
Pve players want to work 95% doing pve than come pvp.
This should be 50/50, or choose one content!
Simole fix:
Resillience on pvp gear.
More ho on
Pvp gear- would cancel thenilv discrepancy.
Only in arenas in bg so there wont abuse it in pve
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Lol, some ppl just never give up on that garbo company making fun of you.
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Inb4 “but it’s the start of s2, s3 will be better for sure!”
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More Speccs viable than in Bfa.
No Dampening.
Damage comes from active abilities, even if there are still some that need fixing.
In the long run PvP iIvl is equal of Mythic Raiding.
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Also to be exact:
I dont want these upgrades from 184+ to be cheap, i know PVE players put time to get their items, im completely fine with that. But i would love to be able also to put time into pvp and get my items on daily basis.
Make upgrades from 184ilvl->190ilvl+ be like 1000-2000 honor points, maybe even more from 190ilvl->200ilvl
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About PvP balance corect me on something if i am wrong
Godd PvP specc are Shadow, Disci, FIre mag, Affiction, Sub, WW, Balance, Feral, MM, Survi, Rshaman , Unholly , Ams, Ret, Hpala and Prot pala
And specc that works find but req specyfic setups are Ele , Enh,MW , Rdruid, Frost Dk and Havoc
They way i see it shure you got dead specc like BM or Fury but almost every class got atlest 1 specc per role that works in PvP what looking back at all past expansions was kinda rare thing to get
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Exactly, the variety on arena is really big. But with bad tuned gearing system it’s so much wasted potential.
About gear
M+ gear cap at 210 from +14 and after that you only get 1 226 item per week from Vault
Raid boess drop 3 items per 20 people what with 10 bosses give like1,5 item per person from full clear unless you are in one of super hardcore guilds most guilds got like 2 bosess kill on Mythic
PvP give you 1 item from Vauild and 550 conq per week , and PvP gear can be upgrade up to 226 and 233 for weaponds , and alsow cap from PvP stack for next weeks but PvE loot does not , you got cath up for PvP gear you dont for PvE only loot trading if you get boosts
My point is that its much easier to be 1,8k PvPer and get 220 loot and meby upgrade it leater to 226 then to be Mythic raider it is much easier to get 226 from PvP then PvE what make that a lot of spec that have high versa rank like Ele shamans got like all bis gear fore PvE come from PvP BUT i agree middle range loot (190-210 ilevel ) are kinda bad to get from PvP
Lol ele is one of the best casters in the game right now with the huge burst. Enha is one of the best melees with huge burst and healing.
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Some utility is back. Some (not all design changes) but overall you are right
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convoke is easy to counter if you are good… pallys on the other hand…
Ur on 1.2 with negative Stats ? Everything is easy on that mmr but yea ok convoke is broken
First you people are pushing for templates and pvp scaling removal and now you’re disappointed about being stomped by pve players. Who could have thought it will come to this right?