Restoration Shaman spec bonuses

Classes Shaman
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For this specialization, in Season 4, I would like the bonuses (updated) from:

Für diese Spezialisierung wünsche ich mir in Saison 4 die (aktualisierten) Boni aus:

Para esta especialización y en la temporada 4, me gustarían los bonus (actualizados) de:

Pour cette spécialisation, dans la saison 4, je préfère les bonus (actualisés) issus de :

Per questa specializzazione, nella Stagione 4, vorrei i bonus (aggiornati) della:

  • Season 1 / Saison 1 / Temporada 1 / La saison 1 / Stagione 1
  • Season 2 / Saison 2 / Temporada 2 / La saison 2 / Stagione 2
  • Season 3 / Saison 3 / Temporada 3 / La saison 3 / Stagione 3
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I love the initiative you have done here… Thanks you.

But having to choose between 3 mediocre, bad, and disappointing tier sets is… well… disappointing… So no thank you…

I was hoping that for S4 RShaman would finally get a decent tier set… but NAH…

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For the love of god do NOT vote for season 2.

I like having a tier set in PVP.

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Sooooo guys! What are we doing here?

Do we pick the less terrible tier set of this terrible extension? Do we boycott? Do we sit in here and cry for a saison 4 tier set? (I mean, if they did, it will just be as terrible as the previous ones!)

Personnaly, I’m going for season 3, it’s the less bad and it don’t force me to play this dumb rain in arena (or try to because, we just delete the set last season and play without it…)

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this! as usual the pvp community is going to get bent over,

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People voting for anything but S2 are either:

  • PvPers
  • PvErs who want a brain dead tierset and have no idea how S2’s set worked

Season 2’s tierset was the best we’ve had by a mile if played WELL with Undulation. The high skill-ceiling with this tierset was night and day, and just goes to show how many people do not have the slightest bit of information regarding it. The big cleave healing provided with Healing Wave by stacking Swelling Rain (4p) and getting free healing from Tidewaters (2p) helped the spec immensely, even if there were better tierset iterations before this expansion.
As someone who is not a big fan of Chain Heal playstyles, it was a breather to be able to play around my tierset effectively and be rewarded by doing so.
The current tierset has little to no interactions in PvE, neither does S1’s considering it’s just a boring stat stick.

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If only i could vote for SL s3/4 tier set, throwing a chain heal on every totem drop was soo nice

2p: Your critical healing increases the critical chance of your next Chain heal by 2% stacking to 50x

4p: your Chain Heal critical hits reduce the remaining cooldown of one of your totems by 2 seconds. Your healing Stream Totem, Healing Tide Totem, Mana tide totem, and Spirit Link Totem cast a free, instant chain heal when you drop them.

BROO common blizzard

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That’s why they should’ve divided this to pvp/pve. S3 is the best for pvp; because when riptide is good, shaman is good. When it’s not, its generally bad/mediocre at best.

If S2 is picked, it will be useless for pvp and will be very bad for shaman. I don’t know if it will be bad if any other season is chosen from pve perspective.

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I am voting for season2 one, I liked the gameplay, I liked the feeling of it. S1 is just a boring stat stick, and I don’t want to play 2 seasons in a row with the same set :slight_smile:

Coming from a player who only does keys to +20 and leaves the season, I have no idea how it feels for big pushers :slight_smile:

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I don’t care about min-max, which is better or anything else, S3 actually has some fun interactions. Also, who cares about pvp lol xD

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Where is the Tier Set bonus that give us Chain Harvest? I don’t want anything but that.

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I would prefer a new tier set for Restoration Shaman next season. Although I only started playing S2 set right at the end and now the S3 set I know that a lot of RSham mains were unhappy with tier performance this expansion (including the guide writers).

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i see people dont care and on every single vote there is the first option chosen as most of votes xD on every single class Community xD

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From an M+ perspective:

You should reconsider your opinion. Played well or not, there is a distinct lack of synergy between what the tier set wanted to achieve and our toolkit.

You haven’t considered the S3 balance tuning. Riptide no longer heals for a wet noodle. If you take the recently buffed talents like Torrent, riptide actually trucks. A LOT.

For instant casts that refresh every 6s and are almost mana free… Plus gives you a ton of buffs after the cast (Deluge, Tidal waves, Flash Flood) … Well… Its not a dot you put on people to get buffs. Its actually a proper heal.

Therefore, its in the shamans interest to manage charges of Riptide for when needed. Not to spam them and waste them playing around with some tier set.

S2 tier set is garbage because of it.

=========== Real Options ===========

And the worst thing is that unlike other healers, none of the tier sets address our core problems.

One of which is the DPS section. We cant heal and dps. Only OR. And that is a big disadvantage.

Another-one is the lack of synergy with our talents. All 3 of them.

Also, all 3 of them tried to give us AoE tools, when we already have them. Its just that we need ways to elegantly use them when needed. Something like reducing the CD of PWave every cast of X would have been ideal.

=========== Conclusion =============

Given that they took the lazy option, I doubt out tier sets would receive change.

The only way to make something decent of us is to allow 2 tier sets at once. Something like S2 (2 and 4) plus S3 ( 2 ). Something along those lines.

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are people trolling here or what? why even pick season 1 or 2. season 3 is the most fun tier set in a long time. just assumed the season 1 and 2 having riptide actuly heal again is awesom. dont make me go back to spamming healing rain. i actuly like the interaction of the season 3 set. while season 1 is just a borin stat stick.

season 2 is just a troll hands down

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Voting S3 as much as I don’t want to play the same Tset two seasons in a row, it is a fun set to play around with the buffs. S2 having to spam Rain and hope people don’t move from it, can make the whole Tset feel useless… recasting Rain just so it activates over prioritising other spells, doesn’t feel very nice.
S1 is boring…

A new tier set would be preferred… ofc

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I vote season 1 because it the only one that helps on DPS also and I like to DPS in Resto Spec

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i like season 1 tier set

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Choosing S2 tier bonuses is dooming our spec for the rest of the expansion. The best option and the strongest in DF is the S3 tier, but even if you dont want to play the same tier twice, S1 is way better than S2. Losing the efectiveness we have now with Riptide is going to hurt, but at least we shouldnt have to prepare heals 30min before a pull just to play around Healing Rain.

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Played well or not, there is a distinct lack of synergy between what the tier set wanted to achieve and our toolkit.

How is there a distinct lack of synergy between the tierset and our toolkit? It was literally the only tierset that promoted a different and interactive playstyle.
Yes, I have considered S3 tuning. If anything the previous build you would play with the previous tierset would be enhanced because we received buffs to Healing Wave, Surge and Chain Heal, which, if anything, just benefit the tierset even more.
Also, if you’re talenting into Torrent, Flash Flood, etc this season I am somewhat concerned about your talent choices. Specially in M+ where are literally useless.

Therefore, its in the shamans interest to manage charges of Riptide for when needed. Not to spam them and waste them playing around with some tier set.

It’s not? We’re meant to send Riptides on cooldown. That’s what S2’s tierset was all about, so you could easily dps in downtime and send healing rain for acid rain uptime so people would get passively healed by the 2p bonus.

One of which is the DPS section. We cant heal and dps. Only OR. And that is a big disadvantage.

This has always been something attached to how Resto Shaman plays. At least with S2’s tierset you could send Acid Rain on cooldown and people would be somewhat maintained by Tidewaters. We had so many spare globals to DPS that were allowed by that gameplay which was good to see for once.

Another-one is the lack of synergy with our talents. All 3 of them.

False. Specially S2’s. Like I said, playing with Continuous Waves, Undulation, Ancestral Awakening, etc made the tierset play like night and day.

Also, STILL to this day, there seems to be a misconception that you need to stand within healing rain to benefit from Tidewaters and/or gain Swelling Rain Stacks; or that it favours melee groups.
You don’t. As long as they have riptide applied on them, you can cast Healing Rain literally anywhere, and you’ll benefit from the tierset bonus.

Wish people actually had played around this tierset well because you can definitely see the shamans that enjoyed it to its fullest potential, whilst others just gave up on it because they had no idea of how it was supposed to function.

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