Oh no… what will the classic servers do without another female human rogue…
Anyway
This must be the funniest thread on the WoW forums. These people willingly moved their characters into dead expansions that already killed the game in the past, and now for months refuse to accept that decision.
I wonder how far in the future such threads will continue.
Until WoW stops existing.
Well count me among the ppl who want the clone service to return.
Yes I know alot of ppl are quite vocal on both the us and the eu forum about the fact that we should stop asking dor that cuz it will simply not, but I think it’s legit to let Blizzard know that there are ppl who are ready to pay em money to have it back. And I’m ready to pay alot for that (within the constraints of common sense ofc ^^).
Let’s start with what we know: The service is gone for know, and blizz is still not getting it back even if it does know that ppl are ready to pay for it. Possible reasons are 1) they realized that they can make more money not reactivating it and letting us pay for multiple months to relevel and regear our pgs ; 2) they have actually deleted the data in a way that is impossible to recover; 3) there is simply not enough demand to cover the cost (legal, upkeep, development, any type of related cost) of the service.
Only thing I can say about 1) is that I tried it, lvl my pg back to 60, started raiding then quitted definitively the game. I may be a minority but I simply wasn’t enjoying re-doing all the farm and content I already had just to try out those cool new builds that I wished to try and that were actually making me hyped, but required me to gain again all the gear I already had. I also tried to make new diff pgs and again, no fun.
About 2) I’ll say that this MAY be the main issue, but blizz never stated the data are deleted forever, simply that the pgs would be gone forever since they had no plan to open again the service. And before a certain wlock replays to me, y I read all the articles and again, they talk about the pgs, the service but not the actual data that could still be there, on some dev pc. It is indeed possible and quite likely that the data are actually gone forever, but blizz still never (for whatever reason) specifically stated this. I have ints that the data may still be there, and it is possible taht some old copy of the data are on blizz storage servers / some of the dev pc, but it is little more than speculation so I will not share it. Still the fact that it still may be possible for the data to be somewhere makes worthy to comment here and let blizz know that we are interested in the service.
As of point 3) the answer is the same. Simply adding our voices here and letting blizz know that there is a sufficinet interest in the service is all they need. This also covers the case where the data are gone, but are somehow still recoverable (maybe they have some old corrupted copy or something else) after sustaining a cost that they want to be sure to cover.
So, if u are interested in the cloning service to return, best thing u can do is ignore those ppl who say it will not and add ur voice here. It is likely they are right, but u’re best move is still to try and let blizz know u want it back too.
Cheers to all of u and see u back in classic + or when the service comes back ^^
They bloody well did and I have linked it Many, Many times in this thread alone! The ACTUAL data is gone.
No it’s not as the LAW says when a business deletes something it has to be unrecoverable aka SHREDDED
But here we go, one more time for the hard of reading.
The Classic Era version of the character will be permanently deleted and unavailable for cloning.
You can deny it all you want but the data is gone and IS NOT COMING BACK.
One more thing, I am not saying I don’t want it to come back, I am saying it can’t come back.
Which law? of which country? some EU or US law protecting our privacy? Can u please link this law (number and date of publication)?
Also, again, I do read all ur posts and the original post of blizz, and they state that the characters are gone, but not their data. As many ppl said wow classic was made starting from an old back up version of the client that a dev had. Ofc they had to completely change the game and retro-engeneer the legion version of the game back to classic, but they used that original version as a benchmark to check what was right and what was not in “vanilla” terms. Or atleast that is what I recall from an old pre-classic lunch interview.
Character delete is not equal to deleting the files, it simply means u will not be able to play it or to recover it unless blizz puts specific effort to re-establish those datas and remake the service. This may have high associated cost that are the true reason why the service is not back. The data files may also actually be gone forever, since Blizz may have actually decided to delete all game files but they never stated that. They simply stated the character would all be deleted and stop. Also keep in mind that the Era servers are a clone of the original classic servers. They simply took all game files and cloned em, then moved the original ones to tbc while removing (deleting) the pgs from the era version, unless u used the clone service. This means that the clone service was not cloning ur pg, but was simply restoring ur pg on the era server, more or less like when u deleted a pg and then used the restore option.
With the removal of the system we no longer have a method to re establish our pgs, thus making the post statement “The Classic Era version of the character will be permanently deleted and unavailable for cloning” but the data files may well still be there, like when the times expire after u deleted a pg and u loose the ability to re activate it, but by writing to a gm u still can.
Ofc we do know that blizz makes periodical system maintenance during which those datas may have been specifically deleted, but I also know that blizz would have likely preferred not to do that since 1) removal of the system meant they did not had the need to do that and 2) there is a risk involved with that where u can deleted more than u would and end up deleting active players characters. This happened multiple times in the past (happened to me too and was fixed using a 1-day old back up copy that a GM had of my server data. A personal copy he had luckily done just for precaution…) so why to run the risk?
Last but not least the name files of my deleted pgs are still there, as well as the macroes I made on em. If for example I try to make a new pg with my old un-cloned main pg’s name, the game says that the name is already used, even if no1 else on any connected server is using it (atleast according to wowlogs and the wow armory).
Guess he means financial laws, where it is a requirement to keep bills, contracts and other kind of legal documents etc. for an extended period - five years in my country.
those are a different kind of laws then and they usually regard keeping info, not deleting em
I know, not sure why he brings that up either.
It’s the same thing, btw the law in the EU is the GDPR.
Of course it is.
I don’t think I have seen this much clutching at straws for quite some time and the post 22 minutes ago has some major clutching.
I bring up the law as it’s what the companies must abide by when they handle data and it’s removal.
You really have no idea, technically it was activating a copy, no cloning involved, those copies are now gone forever.
That is so wrong, your locally stored data is still there. That is all. The server side, the important side, is gone forever. Accept it, grieve, and get out of the denial stage.
Yeah I thought u were talking about the EU gdpr. This is a bigger theme that should require it’s own post. Starting a discussion about that would be too much for this discussion. Let’s simply state that the “legal” reason u gave is both true and false, and thus falls within the “maybe” category.
Regarding the rest I see that u like to keep replying to everyone for some reason, even if this is not the scope of the thread. So instead of keep feeding u (whatever I type u will reply anyway) I’ll simply state this.
Should Blizz bring back the service I would be happy to pay for it, and I would be happy to come back to the game. Just letting blizz know my own personal preference.
I will not play anything that is currently offering. Also I just finished deleting from google all data related to blizzard and it’s games, so I will not fall in temptetion after watching those stupid HC utube videos. bye.
P.S. Do classic + and send me an e-mail blizz, so I’ll know.
is only concern real people not “sims” 
And thing you all time quote to show Data is delete, only show the Era version delete, not the data behind.
The data behind is the data that is the character. It’s gone completely from the Era realms and is not able to be reconstructed or “found” somewhere.
Unfortunately that’s not going to happen.
Would be nice. Can’t see it happening, but it would be nice.
How many years are you going to wait for the service to maybe return? How many characters can you level and gear in these years?
A lot. But those will not be the same characters!
But they can be made very similar to the old ones.
You can not have same things happen to them, join in same groups, or have same random drops, be lucky with fisning and recipes in same way.
It can be substitute, even good substitute, and I can learn to like them. But will never be the same. I would be extatic if possible to somehow clone back my two old mains from Vanilla 
They are now lost somewhere in swirling mists of Twisting Nether, since I not play them since Christmas BfA
They are not lost, they are on Wrath realms. Go play them on those realms for your nostalgia hit.
Well… What if peole didn’t touched their lvl 60 characters after they were automatically moved to TBC? How hard is to make a copy of them to Era if they don’t have anything from TBC or Wrath on them?