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No penalty huh ?
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No it does not. You just do the lower key, and run it to time and go do that higher key again. No problem.
I had no problems last seaosn with my … what it was 1890 rating or so. I did dungeons form 2 to 18 and I managed to fail even a 8 in process. Me failing a dungeon did not impact my RIO being “ok” (least I value that 1800-ish ok, your mileage may vary)
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If some1 care about other people checking your score on a bloody website you should go visit a psychological therapist 
what you said does not actually contest what i said and in fact confirms it.
Whatever you think I meant with it, but point is that RIO is not a problem. Peoples own perception of themselves is.
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No it doesnt how can you even try to twist it to make it so.
Raider IO is not a problem but the timers in the dungeons is.
there are also extremly easy to meet m+ timers. There is literally a m+ level for every single kind of player in this.
normal dungeon up to mythinc into +2, +7 , +10 or even +15. Some people even like it on +20 or higher.
The only problem is YOU who thinks he has to get the best possible loot
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The only relevant timer jiih is currently the +15 chest and regardlss of what you say, it is not an easy timer by any means, there is no point in doing M+ unless you specifically aim to get the maximum weekly box ilvl as the rewards will not help you in the slightest otherwise.
They are not in any way since you can do dungeons over and over and get rewarded with it and top of that get weekly free loot for trying.
I honestly wish that all my wow problems would be as hard as M+ timers.
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And here we go.
Problem is you who feels entitled to the best loot.
so beat the timer or play on a level which is relaxing for yoru skill level.
TBH if you ask me M+ was way too rewarding until now gearwise. A +10 last season was a joke especially the item you got from your weekly chest and makes peopel lazy and demanding
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Have you even checked out this season rewards and scaleing or are you just trolling now because your so far off point its shocking.
Why would you need to have gear the same as a 15 drops ? If you cant time them improve yourself and your team by praticing this early in season 15s are tough give it some time and they will be a breeze but dont expect easy loot.
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actually, no, it is pointless getting a chest below the level which you are aiming for, for this reason, if your key is never able to get to that level because of people not doing enough dps because of how confusing the game is now, you are never actually going to get the reward that you are aiming for.
This concept spreads toxicity throughout the playerbase and is directly harmful to the game.
For example, look at the horrific visions, this is a good place for a timer as it is specifically a challenge that does not require you to rely on other people to keep up with you.
You’re 443, you haven’t got a hope in hell of timing a +15 by legit means at that ilevel. You can however get lots of upgrades on the journey to +15’s.
But you’re too entitled. It’s like you not wanting to raid normal or HC cos mythic gives the phat lewts.
Your attitude is mind boggling.
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But if you AIM for something, you can rerun the key. No problem. You think other posters here have never failed a key ? They-us… we did not have 1 run per dungeon during season. Even those who do 20+ keys at end will fail plenty on their way.
Just rerun the key. Like rest of us. You can run a dungeon 100000 times for your “aimed value”
actually, all ive been doing now is crafting, the power creep has simply gone beyond reason.
tho i suspect when im doing heroic dungeons for tidal cores, the new players are getting rather disgusted at what i can do…
Told you she/he will argue and twist it .
They just want the 15 chest handed to them by being able to cc each mob and blow hero on each trash pack and take 4 hours to complete the dungeon. And still upgrade there key.
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News flash - in Shadowlands there will be a built in scoring system too. If you don’t start from low keys to move up you won’t get free +10 or +15 invites. And new players have zero idea how mechanics work in those dungeons. They aren’t able to do anything more than basic M+ levels.
If you are unsure you can check if someone is doing it clearly for score and amount of runs. And often runs are stopped because given team can’t finish the run in sane amount of time due to something not working correctly. If you PUG you will have like 20-40% fails.
But also could be abused the other way around. There is no one best solution. And IMHO for the most time replacing one person won’t solve the problems.
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Not really, no. Mind posting on your main?
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do you seriously think i enjoyed having to leave and ruin peoples keys or even my own when they went wrong just so i could ensure i would be invited by other groups?