I am sort of not understanding how THIS is not interrupting RP on the horde side in orgri. There are probably different rules. The side people are on is more important.
They don’t accept screenshots or recordings as proof. So no.
The real irony is that the actual PCU discord is much cleaner & nicer than the PCU-maintained discord open to all AD roleplayers.
I am not a PCU affiliated individual at all, but what I can say is that their attitude on discords/forums is largely borne out of repeated attempts to mispresent some of their members, those i’m thinking of anyway.
One thing the PCU has a very clear stance on is they are vehemently anti-ERP and they do not hold punches on this fact, and quite rightly so- because there is a risk of minors being exposed to such given this is a 12+ game, not only that but the reputation of “ERPing in Goldshire” does not do the server any benefits. They maintain that if somebody is absolutely inclined to do that, they can do it somewhere else that has nothing to do with the WoW RP scene. I completely support that stance and support their continued vigilance against it.
A fair amount of the accounts that spread the “PCU is the Empire from Star Wars” line are those whom have been on the receiving end of PCU scrutiny, or where the PCU refuses to roleplay with them because of suspicion of such. They paint the PCU spread as some kind of sinister plot, whereas at best it’s an attempt to create a community of RPers across both factions whom all sign up to some broad statements such as:
- OOC Behaviour should not take precedence over RP behaviour, and where OOCers cannot be introduced to RP, they should be advised as to other servers.
- ERP is absolutely not to be tolerated.
Where multiple guilds join this community, it’s a sign they share broadly the same values. It’s not a takeover, rather it’s a way of saying “we share the same basic ruleset, so we know that we’re compatible to play together”. Guilds choose to join the PCU rather than the PCU consuming them like some mega faceless corporation.
I’d just advise actually interact with people in-game to garner an opinion rather than go from “what you’ve heard” or leave it solely to discords where passions can become inflamed. Of course RPers get more passionate about stuff than the average player due to the personal investment in the storylines they craft, so i’m not going to pretend drama doesn’t exist. But discounting the entirety of the membership base because some people within it has been in dramatic situations is a bit of a generalisation.
This probably sounds like errant fanboying, so i’ll reiterate, i’m not affiliated nor am being paid subsidies by the PCU at all, but their members provide a crapload of the concepts, storylines and campaigns that actually give the server life (not all of them mind) and to ignore the significant role they play in keeping AD’s RP scene active because there’s some drama over who said what and how they’re being portrayed is pretty woeful imo.
Can’t believe you wrote this 400,000 word response just to defend our honour against an altposter
You are truly one of the most noble gamers on these forums Paxmillian. Alright, fine, you’ve convinced me - you can join the PCU now
Just kidding … unless
What is it that people dislike about the PCU? I’ve done some looking around on the forums and you guys seem alright.
Every. Time.
They hate us because they ain’t us
Honestly my favourite thing about the nay-sayers. It’s a game of telephone, really.
You can blindfold yourself, throw a dart at an infowars style conspiracy theory board and land on any number of bizarre justifications that people hold, usually based on hearsay and paranoia. We’re just a group of nerds who share common views regarding RP and the rules of the server, and we enjoy playing with each other. That’s it. There is no conspiracy.
If my machine were more consistent in terms of performance (see: I need to buy a new one) i’d be on the RP mainstay as I have been before, but alas. The issue is when my computer issues are resolved, i’m torn between trying to spring my own RP guild concept, or just blending into what already exists. I haven’t decided.
Irrespective of what I do, I just think people focus so much on the drama, the memes, the exchanges they happily overlook the fact that like-them-or-not, the PCU do create a truckload of RP life for the server and it’s only when you have people doing stuff like this, RP will continue to thrive. RP doesn’t magically appear because people “have a mind for it”, well it can, but it will be largely ad-hoc RP that doesn’t really go anywhere over time, kinda like small talk with a colleague you might see once a day. To drive plots that can impact characters, it requires time, planning and continued energy to keep it going and the PCU do that and people focus far too much on bogeyman stories.
As said it doesn’t make the group immune to any criticism, nobody is immune to criticism. But I guess I just get bored of the “dude said X on discord, PCU is badda badda badda” and it kind of ignores all of the creative input they put into the server in favour of some memery.
It’s like, I can think an author is a dingdong personally, whilst conceding they make effective contributions to their field. Too many people are approaching it with an angle: “This author is a dingdong, therefore nothing they do is of value” it’s such a childish way to look at things.
It’s time…
Join us.
The issue: AoU is a based Gnome concept imo, however it is not a concept I see for my Gnomes which I have RP on (of which there are several) because none of them are particularly interested in Titans or “the glorious machine age”. They’re more of the “Bondo’s Yard” type, making-do, gnarly, scrappy, perhaps a little bit underhanded in some ways. They’re pragmatic, not idealistic. At current I can’t see a concept that exists where that fits and it would be developed organically (I may be wrong) which is why i’m considering whether my own guild may be the answer. The issue with that is it would be extremely niche (A kind of salvage/procurement operation which is MG-led, inspired off the “junker gangs” of Mechagon, trying to carve a new tech market monoply post-Mechagon’s demise). It’s not necessarily Gnome only, but i can’t imagine it appeals to many beyond Gnomes (or those who wish to be in their employ) or actually Goblins as well.
I’m prattling, the point is irrespective of whether one is or isn’t PCU, this shouldn’t be seen as a reason to react resistantly towards them.
Im gonna jump on this bit: I’ve had one known interaction with PCU members where they gave me masses of abuse and called me a certain derogatory word because I stated that I would like more skirt mog options, basically more colour variations of of what is currently available to match with separate chest pieces instead of always having to mog robes. That behaviour doesn’t endear them to me really
Perhaps if they didn’t accuse every person of being “that” people wouldn’t be so harsh towards them?
Was it all 200 & whatever of us or just like 1 person?
Was a number of them jumped onto a thread about more mog options, they singled out my “i would like my skirt mog options” comment
Makes a good impression /sarcasm
I have literally never heard of you until now.
Because of IC shifts in leadership (ie. the two old leaders were killed in a campaign) the AoU has a more gnomish military vibe - though their doctrine / on paper their goals remain the same there are many members who aren’t heavily into the Titan stuff and are just there to fight for the gnomish people
IDK if that fits your concept any better but there it is
Link the thread
It’s entirely possible I called them a c**mer for wanting what basically constitutes a sl*tmog.
I had a looksie but that thread the person is referring to has no signs of that happening.
My King
That doesn’t sound like behaviour we would encourage at all; we don’t want to harrass people, just as we don’t want to be harrassed. Do you have a link to the thread?