I promise I won’t. 
SOLOQ REMOVES TOXIC GATEKEEPERS ONLY LOOKING FOR META CLASSES
soloQ is the way forward.
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No it isn’t I can think of worse ones.
Inb4 “OK list them”
Ok, great. I mean… impressive.
But let’s not have a battle how you can make worse arguments that make even less sense to why solo queue is bad 
Why not? Most of this thread is just deflecting and ignoring points we disagree with.
We are ultimately just arguing our own perceptions of reality. Jito seems to think Solo Queue will make tanks and healers appear from the ether, I don’t think that. It’s not like either of us know.
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That is not what I am asking.
What I am asking is: How long will I have to wait.
I am a high MMR player trying to get into a low MMR match. How will the algorithm treat that?
Healers/tanks dont have a problem even in LFG. Its better for us to have LFG and we loose out on having a Matchmaker.
Its the DDs that will have to wait. So for THEM, they will have to wait even longer than they have to wait now?
Or game the system so you delay MMR gains so you can stay in 8+ farming all the gear you need BEFORE pushing keys?
So basically. “Normal people” at those key levels wait a normal amount of time. But they loose access to playing with some gigachad people that can help compensate for some of their flaws. Their experience will be more “painfull”… lets call it that…
And everyone else will have to wait even longer to get into a group, but wont have to carry anyone?
Dosent seem like an improvement for me. It dosent add player freedom at all !
I actually also don’t think that.
I just think players will prefer to get into groups through an automated queue system than through Group Finder. And I think Blizzard will inevitably aim to please.
That’s basically it.
As someone gave earlier RIO data about healers tank and dps, we have more tank players than we can make groups, theoretically.
Solo queue can indeed handle shortages, while the current system can’t, didn’t and doesn’t.
The more important question, why would you be so against an addition of a mode? I will never understand why someone wants to force people, who have nothing to do with you, to force to play a specific way.
We know more people than just the ones in the forums you know. And we dont just use the forum. Reddit, MMO-Champion. WoWHead… Discord… ect… Not to mention ingame.
In that case:
For Healers/tanks the quew will still be instant. It cant get any lower.
What we loose is agency to choose WHO we play with. That is the difference between LFG and Matchmaker.
For DDs, if you increase the ammount of DDs by 7. Then they will have to wait 7x more.
Well that’s a very weird question to ask. How long do I have to wait for a group at 3:29? You can’t answer that too, realistically.
The MMR is applied to specific key range and you have to wait depending on how many players are playing, are online and what roles are looked for.
Well you keep saying that but it’s wrong.
Well you say that and I disagree. Just because you believe to know what’s better for ME, is not making it true. But on the other hand, I don’t tell you how to play, I say you can choose yourself.
(and please stop writing “loose” it’s “lose”… it’s hurting my brain to read it all the time)
I don’t get what you are trying to say and how solo queue is gonna be worse than pugs. You kinda skipped what you were trying to make an argument for.
That’s not the case right now.
You don’t LOSE anything because you can choose the way you want to play. People who don’t want the current system CAN’T choose anything.
Name them then.
If you invoke a majority and you want to use it as an argument, then you must also bring the receipt and allow others to scrutinize it.
If you want agency, then the Group Finder is still there, so use that.
You’re not forced to use the automated queue system.
7x more than what? If you’re increasing them, then you’re adding more players to Mythic+ that weren’t there before, so the feature is now just more popular as a result of the automated queue system.
Seems like a win to me. If 7x as many dps players are willing to engage with Mythic+ once you add an automated queue system to it, then that’s a no-brainer for Blizzard.
M0 should be in DF so no more people sneaking their 550 buddies in for a carry. But M+? Hell-no. Would be a disaster.
Everything impacts everything. For example they are building unholy amounts of McMansions in my village. The road out is always massively blocked now and the next village over is salty because they have to deal with all the traffic even though they aren’t building anything there and are trying to block stuff getting built.
They know they are next and they are powerless.
This village situation is worse than Solo Queue could ever be so I don’t really care if they bring it in.
Just to get this straight. You don’t care if Blizzard adds an automated queue system to Mythic+ because people in your village are building large houses and you don’t like that?
I’m going to do something different now before this turns into the twilight zone.
I was just using that as example for how stuff happening changes stuff even if you ignore it.
My usual go to is “Legalise all drugs and if you don’t like it just don’t take any”
I was just outside seeing the McMansions so I thought I’d switch it up.
So TLDR you want to hold an unknown amount of players hostage in case you decide to play once in a blue moon and while you don’t want to follow Uda’s advice to build a pre-made, you want these people to be ready when you need them and make sure they don’t find their groups in a different mode you dislike?
That’s kinda… crazy ngl…
I don’t have enough 「medicine」 in my veins right now to understand this. It’s only just past 2pm here though so give me time.
playing dps is fun . objectively most people have fun playing dps,
but even as a tank unless you are experienced and geared you get tons of declines.
and even if you have score and gear - you will get declined a lot because you happen to play non meta spec
like you said yourself " few minutes" those "few minutes in reality mean few minutes of being costantly declined
thats a bad customer experience
i bet you that a lot of people would rather sit in que then getting even 1 decline.
becauase there is nothing more frustrating then getting decliend by key owner with garbage score themselves who look for carry .
technicaly those peopel in future coudl and should be replaced by Ai which would let you get instant invites into groups via automated system
now ? year its song of future
in 5 years ? thats exactly whats incoming .