You’re definitely allowed to and if you want the best conditions for a successful run, then you also should.
The behavior makes sense from the vantage point of the player.
It’s just not very optimal so far as making groups is concerned.
Alas I’m saying that an automated queue system is more fair.
If you queue for a Heroic dungeon now, then the system just finds an adequate tank, an adequate healer, and 3 adequate DPS and put them together in a group as fast as possible.
That’s a more efficient, optimal, and fair process than having the tank sit in LFG and look for 4 meta players with Mythic gear and curve who he can invite to his Heroic dungeon group.
A system with no bias beats a system with bias with regards to efficiency, optimization, and fairness.
Yes, it keeps changing so I get why its confusing. But KSM is 2k score, not sure what keylevel that translates to this season as I haven’t really had a chance to play much. But below 10’s at least. And then it’s the dungeon portals at 10 and mythic vault. Those are usually the rewards that people aim for who isn’t really into m+.
The only time I forced myself to get serious enough in M+ was back in BFA when they had gated that Focusing iris supercharge beam visual behind some keystone rating.
Back then it was for completing all the BFA dungeons at +15 for KSM.
It all becomes so much more pleasant with guild groups
Even needed them on both fortified and tyrannical. I felt like KSM was a seasonal goal I used to work for back then, now it’s just passively earned while I do m+ in start of season. Being a bit slow this season though since I’ve barely played.
You now need 2000 score for KSM. We have 8 dungeons so on average we need 250 points per dungeon. Exactly at this moment i want to check the amount of points, raiderio is not accessable. But it is a combination of +6 and 7 to get there. Or upgrading al +6 with +2 i suppose.
That is not how it works. Tanks arent “sitting” for meta specs.
What is really happening is you got a half naked tank waiting 8 minutes for 3 absolutely GIGACHAD DDs with 3.1 rating to melt packs and do all the mechanics for him.
Maybe at some point there’ll be some self-reflection on the other side at the inability to understand? Maybe? Just a wee bit? Probably not…
I work for a toy company.
We have some machines that make toys. Just like Santa!
Even though we don’t get more machines that can make more toys, we still manage to make more toys!
Is it magic? No, it’s just through ways of improving optimization and efficiency in production.
You find the areas where you can make something in the process more efficient and more optimal, and that translates to more output in the end.
It’s the same with WoW.
You have people. You have dungeons. And between those two you have a process that needs to get people into dungeons. That process is currently called LFG. What I am saying is that LFG is not very efficient or optimal at getting thousands and thousands of people into dungeons 24/7, and that if you improve this process, then you actually get people into dungeons faster – even if the number of people and dungeons don’t change.
And that issue has nothing to do with a lack of tanks or healers, and everything to do with players wanting to make the best choices if they can choose themselves.
So M+ is already a lot more humane than it used to be, yet from how upset some people in the forums are about it, I expected it to be worse than ever lol
It sounds like the problem is the attitudes of players towards others at any content that one cannot sleepwalk through
Nah, KSM is quite accessible these days. Ofcourse getting into groups will always be an issue, but there are communities that one can use to help with that. I only do keys with friends and guildies, I have no will to put myself into pug nightmare when I don’t have to.
No kidding.
If I ever try to do M+ again, I will only do it in a controlled environment with guildies or one of those communities of people who want to have a good time.
Group Finder PuGs should be having a disclaimer ordained by the World Health Organization for being a (mental) health hazard.
Who sais YOU are the guardian of morality here? Who sais your morality is the best?
I could argue that only the best of the best can get into my key. Cause I dont want to carry anyone. Its not my PoV. But it is a PoV regardless. Why is it inferior to yours?
So instead of discussing “phylosophy” that gets us nowhere… how about we address the root cause instead? Cause you havent answere it yet:
This way, there is ZERO bias. ZERO morality to discuss. No phylosophy. NOTHING.
