San'layn/Dark Ranger Megathread Allied Race

In the Lore the Most Forsaken are Humans and High elves/Quel’dorei… The new night elves undead are definitely a No Go ! I would like San’layn if they join the Horde. Unique and much better.
Beside that the Undead Elves are more comfortable to be dead-living persons and don’t have the problems like the Humans … (Before the Storm)

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I don’t know but for me the most plausible thing is that they’ll add the dark rangers as a playable hero class like the demon hunters. The Wardens maybe in the future but not now or if they add them, they’ll be potentially a male spec for the dark rangers.

Yes , the night elves that accepted undeath in darkshore are too little to become playable ! Whereas the high elves that died and got raised were like the majority of the population

And if they got their way there would be helf and sanlayn next :laughing:

Elf overload!!!

If we got our way there would be no such thing as Void Elf as much as I love them and want to main one I dont like the Alliance , and I truly think that Alleria should have been a unique cause

If we get these San’layn, I would even agree with Alliance getting High elves…
even if Blood elves are Highelves, they have the same model, but so do the void elves and the san’layn
so both factions would get their Blood/High elves and recolours
sounds fair to me

But I don’t think that’s how it works.
Nightborne and Void Elves are the night elf/blood elf model faction swaps, so if we get any further blood elf model race, you can be damned sure that it will involve a swap of another night elf model.

But now, I truthfully don’t think we should get anymore elven races, for simple fact of Nightborne and Void Elves (Horde Night Elves, Alliance Blood Elves.) We essentially have everything now.

But to me personally I wish Alleria was a unique cause , and her to be the only Void Elf
If Dark Rangers become an allied race then they will have the same model, but San’layn will most likely get a different look , I mean Kultirans are not a reskin

But that’s not exactly a race, that’s a class and regardless if numbers, that would be something for Night Elves and Blood Elves, which at this stage, isn’t right because we’ve got the Night Elf/Blood Elf class in the Demon Hunter

And it’s a darker version of an MM Hunter.

The San’layn would have to have the Blood Prince/Blood Queen model, which does use a combination of the male night elf model and the female blood elf model, but again - we start stumbling into the area of “another elf allied race.” We also have to remember, those models didn’t work with regular clothes. It was like the Nightborne Legion models - they aren’t/weren’t designed with clothes in mind.

I think a better question is, regardless of controversy, if we are to actually get another blood elf model allied race, then we need to start looking at a night elf equivalent and they are running short. The only ones would be “Highborne”, but they are just like High Elves, except instead of blue eyes, they wear gaudy clothes and possibly have fancier hairstyles.

But the thing is the Nightborne are Highborne right? I mean one of the haircuts is called Highborne , and Sylvanas sings Lament of the Highborne so I dont think this each race that comes has to have an equivalent counterpart so far we got

Human/Kultiran
Orc/Maghar
Dwarf/Dark Iron
Alleria/Void Elf (this could be blood elf giving the alliance something and this is the night elf allied race)
Blood Elf/Nightborne
Tauren/Highmountain
Draenei Lightforge
Trolls/Zandalari

Each race braught in something and gave their reasons why , in the Horde embassy Nathanos is there standing left with Gallywix and Ji Firepaw the only 3 that did not speak in the embassy , and there are two slots left + an open one for a neutral race which I doubt is going to happen but if it did here is my guess

Nathanos : he wants anything undead and he is training the dark rangers and raising new ones both blood elf and night elf alike + he was with the San’layn

Gallywix : Vulpera or Gilgoblins

Ji: vulpera maybe for both factions

But the thing is if horde gets an elf alliance dont have to if you wanna look at counterparts death and void are the biggest counterpart another one is sylvanas and alleria

But one can easily argue that we already have this with Forsaken and Void Elves.

And the story seems to be heading towards a very different thing whereby we have Sylvanas waging war on life - not on void. Kaldorei and the Red Dragonflight are the #ProLife races.
As far as the story is being set up, it’s very much looking like a Tyrande vs Sylvanas, not Alleria vs Sylvanas.

But that isn’t truly relevant anymore.

The Nightborne of Suramar have become their own thing and a song is neither here nor there, because Chronicles tells us that the High Elves were still referred to as “Highborne” right up until the race-name-change.

The point is, their isn’t anything being truly added which is unique and brings something to the table, if it two races of the exact same model. It’s got to be different and Nightborne and Void Elves were done right.
It’s got to be that exchange - it can’t be anything else, otherwise the move looks to be a needless pander to blood elf fans, only and they shouldn’t be doing that with this system.

Or you give night elves and blood elves the dark ranger class. Either way, you can’t ask for two blood elf modeled races to come out together, at the same time. It’s bland and boring and quite frankly, a little bit sh!t.

Or give night elf warden, and blood elf dark ranger there isnt enough night elves that sylvanas turned

Then give gnomes and goblins tinker

But the more classes the complicated I am just a person that really wants something so rich in lore that I love , and I really love the tragedy of Silvermoon and by the patch forsaken elf makes sense everytime and they are a candidate for the forsaken allied race if they will be following the structure that they have followed for allied race so my hopes are up :pray:t3:

But we could easily say the same thing about the Highborne and Night Elf Mages.

Blizzard have made now created Night Elven Dark Rangers, love them or hate them, and the Dark Ranger Captain is a Night Elf and in 8.2, we are going to see more Night Elf Dark Rangers as we rescue Baine.
The only other way this can be sorted is fairly, would be to revisit the character of Delas Moonfang and bring in Night Elf Paladins and then, on Horde side, we either go for Nightborne Druids or Blood Elf Druids (the former looking more likely because they have NPC’s in the Nighthold cleansing their plantlife with the arcane.)
Also, the latter options would be random and be written as such, whilst the night elf paladin arc would have some backing.

I love it as well, but we have to keep things in perspective and remember that Blizzard have a world that goes beyond Silvermoon, Suramar, Night Elf Paladins and other things.

Truthfully, I can’t see anything else, “elf related” that is going to come from this expansion now. The only plausible thing would be Night Elf Paladins, but in truth, I think if they were going to make them playable, they would have done so in 8.1, to fit the theme.

Its just a waiting game , I wont mind not getting them but if we do I will definitely play as one , if we dont I wont rage quit I know BFA is not the best expansion , but I play it everyday , and im always hyped for new wow news !

Oh man, you got already 4 Elves and you want more. Are you kidding me? We already got all Elves at the start. The only thing which Forsaken could get are Lightforged Forsaken. San’layn failed on a such simple thing like “don’t consume your allies”.

Lightforge forsaken is a mistake and if it happens its not with the horde, im only stating the possible forsaken candidates that has been shown in bfa

BfA showed us that San’layn wouldn’t work :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Yet Sylvanas will do the same , my guess worse

If she do it she will be removed just like Garrosh. After all this Orc cinematics about honor I’m pretty sure that it will happen.


(from Taliesin & Evitel)
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this is how I imagine a dark Ranger beeing possible and how it could be implemented savely, without making too much trouble
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