No offense, but all I see in this conversation is a bunch of desperate, friendless people whining all the time. Better take this problem as a challenge and face it. I mean I can see like 20 of you whinging. Stop wasting your time posting on forums. Make a community and face the other premades. Show how good you are and let me know the result. Peace.
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âNo offenseâ and then comes all the insults. Iâm not getting further into a discussion with someone who has to hide behind an alt + not contributing with anything but offending people. Inform yourself and write something meaningful is my best advice to you.
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Yeah, I forgot todayâs youths gets offended so easily. Sorry about that, I feel you. Itâs difficult swallow the truth.
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Nothing strange about it at all, mmoâs have always and will always have a huge proportion of players that play solo. Multiplayer means only that there are multiple people playing it, playing in groups isnât a requirement, never has been, never will be.
I never said its a requirement.
its just strange youve chosen a Massively multiplayer online game and then proceed to whine about people grouping up.
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Exactly, thatâs my point. Especially when there are features like Solo shuffle. I canât imagine I would play large scale PvP 40v40 when I prefer playing solo. Itâs like spent vacation in Antarctica while I love sunny beaches and then blaming travel agency there is not enough sun lmao.
What is being said here is about several groups queue syncing to get in the same BG which is not possible under normal circumstances.
No one is complaining about a group of 5 people playing in a BG together
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but they are? why does a 5 man group need to be put in a seperate que?
I agree that bg group sync queing is lame.
There is nothing strange about it at all, what is strange is that you are all so terrified to play a game without a large group holding your hands, itâs ok though we get it. Youâre the new wave of millennial weirdos that have absolutely no real friends because youâre all scared to leave your house, so you literally have to make friends in a computer game so that someone on this planet will talk to you nerdy little freaks.
Making a premade raid to fight other premade raids is not appealing to most players who are annoyed by queue syncers because these players know that the playerbase of epic bgs consists mostly of solo players and small groups (as it should be).
This means that in 90% of rounds, they wouldnât be fighting the other premades, they would just roflstomp some randoms. They would effectively become what they despise.
queue sync premades do not belong into this game. They only exist because it is easy to circumnavigate the 5 man rule. And the 5 man rule exists in the first place because the developers knew exactly that letting premade raids loose on randoms will result in one-sided baserape, but alas, they donât enforce their own rules properly and as a result, normal epic bgs players who play either solo or in small groups have to put up with annoying, super one-sided matches from time to time.
As for âShow how good you are.â
- Premade raids are clowns. There is exactly one premade community that I know of where I would claim that its individual members possess some skill at the game and that is Pandoraâs community. The other European Premades are mediocre af and win on superior coordination and quantity alone.
h.ttps://imgur.com/a/MsiBKVA
I still have some screenshots of how I defeated Zado in S1.
He was queue syncing and I was in a group of 2 with one Paladin friend.
These queue syncers are complete nohands, I swear.
If 2 people are enough to defeat their queue sync premade, imagine the result if we played this round with 20 players in our premade instead of 2.
The developers need to make queue syncing, which shouldnât be a thing in the first place btw impossible or at least super impractical and inconvenient and the experience will be greatly improved for every epic bg player who isnât a lamer.
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Having friends IRL and online are not mutually exclusive, you know?
If anything, those who can easily make new friends in this game probably have better social skills in the real world too.
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Just returning the shoolboy insults you use⊠I guess the truth hurts when it rebounds and comes back at you.
Just giving back a taste of their own
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I didnt insult you or anyone in this thread.
Which schoolboy insult are you speaking of?
My apologies, I have misread the name in who I should have been replying to
Should have been to KualalumpurâŠ
Anyway, there are people who like to play with friends and there are those who donât. Neither should have to stop playing or get to a point where they want to stop playing, the simple answer is already there with solo shuffles. If they added it to all of the random formats of the game then there would never be any need for these forum posts. Those who want to play in their groups could still join the normal queue and those who donât could join the shuffle queue. Problem solved, no idea why it has taken them so long to even try it.
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You won a game where Zado was in, but you show no proof of the alliance premade in that game, yet you claim it exists. As far as I can tell, you might have just won a game where Zado was solo. I mean, in the other screenshots you can faintly see some of the names of your enemies in the BG and none of them were regular premade players. Iâve mentioned before that paranoia has gotten to the point where you guys start to see premades everywhere, and you just proved my point.
So stop boasting with your glorious war stories, they are mere fishing tales that wouldnât empress even Nat Pagle.
This is his hunter
94% win rate in Ashran with over 200 rounds. Dude is known to play exclusively in premade raids. In the second to last screenshot we fight his raid near that lake where usually nobody ever goes (unless they are being ordered to regroup there by their raid leader on discord, that would be a possible reason 
)
Do you really want to make me believe I coincidentally met him alone? Fat chance.
Heâs a mediocre 1500 player and plays like one too. His win rates, much like that of many queue-syncing premade players, are only high because he joins with a private army that does everything for him. These players donât deserve to win that often just because they cheat the queue system and you should quit with this laming too and play in small groups instead.
How much are they paying you? This is Taylor Swift fans level of loyalty to Zado, Alfredo & co.
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Sure, make accusations of shilling, just because youâre losing the argument. GG.
I didnât say that he doesnât do premade, I just said there was no premade in that game. Because there wasnât. Thereâs even proof in your screenshots that wasnât a premade. Is your comprehension level this low?
Moreover, not that he needs defending, but you accuse him of being âa mediocre 1500 playerâ, yet he did top DPS of his team while you were hunting him (six deaths as a ranged is a sign for hunting someone in a BG).
Iâve seen you play and youâre a good player Fistus, but man, youâre really really bad at accepting a defeat. Stop trying to blame your failures on others.
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Well he clearly is a premade player and a premade leader, one of the most infamous in Europe. He clearly is queue syncing a lot, hence his win rates, and he does it to this day. I met him just 3 days ago, when we played a round of IoC with HĂŒhnchen and Valdrakon. He was on our team. We took all 3 bases and roflstomped the Alliance team. Wohoo.
Whenever I bump into him, he is with a premade, but now in this case where I defeated him, it was the exception of course and he was not in a premade. Tell me, which random team tries to regroup at the lake in the penultimate screenshot?
What exactly is the proof? That he lost to my team? This wasnât the first time btw. I also defeated him in Wintergrasp back in Shadowlands. We were attackers, they were defenders. They went to broken temple instead of sunken Ring and started taking Workshops, but since they sent a few of their people away, we outnumbered them and defeated them in the fight. Then we stormed their keep with only 8 demolishers while they came back for broken from the south with catapults. We stalled their catapults long enough at broken and our 8 demolishers were enough to break through their walls, we won.
Are you going to tell me he wasnât in a premade then too? Which random team goes to broken and sends 10 players for the other workshops? No one. They were a premade.
h.ttps://imgur.com/a/6J9uHcu
The first screenshot in this album might be confusing. It was from a WG round earlier that day where we defended that I put into there by mistake, Ignore it.
Zado is just not that good of a player. His success is due to him bringing multiple groups that obey his orders. But that is effectively cheating the queue system.
DPS isnât hard if you are playing MM hunter. He died so often because we wiped them often and never allowed them to do a proper regroup. Maybe some players in my team deliberately tried to focus him, everyone knew he was the leader of the enemy team. Some people in the horde team already started saying âOh no, itâs a Fado premadeâ in chat. I told them to put up a fight. Itâs logical to take out the leader to disrupt the enemy team.
Yeah you defeated me a few times in Ashran half a week ago when I was queuing alone. Maybe you were indeed a group of just 3, maybe you are lying and you were more people after all. It frankly doesnât matter and I am not salty because of these particular rounds. Itâs a casual game mode.
What I dislike are queue syncing premade raids in general. I donât even really hate the people who engage in them. I know you associate with Zendefine and maybe you are also in Zadoâs community and maybe they are pretty OK people on a personal level, but what they do is not OK.
Premade raids equal one-sided rounds because all the coordination and player quality (or at least potential to control composition and player quality) are stacked in one team.
One sided rounds mean that only one side has fun while the other side finds the game boring, and people donât like to play boring games so they are more likely to quit the game mode or WoW altogether. Furthermore, this is only possible by BSing the queue system and doing something which is actually not allowed, which means that those who lose to premade raids are not just bored, but feel cheated too.
They are terrible for the health of the game and just because itâs easy to get away with it, that doesnât mean you should engage in them. If you want to play epic bgs with friends, small groups are the healthy alternative.