Serious issues with M+ this expansion

Delves are pretty boring but they can be done quickly. Some only take 10 minutes and you can spam the same one over and over.

It’s also pointless to farm keys for them unless you need trinkets or cloaks, which you don’t after you’ve used 3 keys.

You stand in the City and search for M+ grps. Maybe you run 2 M+. When this is fun for you do it. Effective and fun is different

A-ha! So others are mostly getting those slots too! I stopped running delves when 3 in a row gave me a cloak. Absolute trash content indeed.

“Monk be nimble, Monk be quick. Monk gets 3 cloaks and this useless trinket.”

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I’ve seen the trinket that looks like a dagger so many times I feel like it’s haunting me. I saw it today in the regular chest that doesn’t need a key and I’ve seen it every week in the Vault.

Delves are just a more boring version of Torghast imo

When your heal on stonevault does 1.3M HPS on the ball + shield boss in SV and you wipe at 5% due to Xal’atah shield on the shield phasis. No it’s not the healers fault (reminder i’m playing tank :p)

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the problem is not that its there

there problem is that is 20 times easier .

this makes anything below m+9 compellty pointless dead content.

its even faster when you just do zekvir ? for 8 GV slots - 30 mintues your whole GV filled and you recuve equivalant at the end of week of someone who puts literaly hours into clearing m+ and who didnt get any good drops in there.

paradoxaly my blood dk got very nice trinekt for m+ from GV from doing dvelves and is ruingin aroudn with 554 green cloak because cloak refuses to drop in dvelve :stuck_out_tongue:

it’s boring, but less anoying than torgast beginning on SL and less frustrative, just… useless way to pass time, zero social way. It’s more social in MM+ content, than soloing a delve as a tank in 5 mins (hello fungal delves :D)

My Paladin doesn’t have a cloak but he got all the good slots like chest, weapon and head immediately. So far has he shield and 2 piece (shoulder+leg) from the vault.

Regarding Zekvir, this morning I watched a video saying it unlocks 616 vault but I’ve still never tried it. It seemed like it would be too boring to just do 8 times in a row.

  1. If you have 2 set from the vault can’t you catalyst the other 2 pieces to get your 4 set?
  2. Zek takes 2-3 min on a decently geared char. Call it 5 min with the run in and out etc. Do it 4x in 20 min thats 2 decent vault slots.
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I could get 4 piece but I didn’t intend to use my Paladin in m+ so I never thought about using the Catalyst. Thanks for the reminder.

They want you playing for longer. That’s why myth track has 6 stages, that’s why myth comes only from +10 that’s why they made it so much harder, that’s why they buffed death penalty. Everything to keep you on the hamster wheel. My goal before was to do like 20ish keys for gear and then get portals. M+ is a fine thing, but I will not do 100+ dungeons in a season, that is just boring. Now with the gear grind and number of keys required from me to get the portals I won’t even bother with the system at all. My guild is at the last boss of heroic raid and after we kill it the season is over for me. This E-Sports version of M+ is just a chore with no fun in there.

If there are no changes for the .1 patch and how M+ works I don’t think I’m coming back. Only raid is not enough to justify the price of WoW.

Starting from raid tuning for 60 players in race to world fist to a constant effort of making a m+ an E-Sport I don’t get why this game hates it majority player base. Why are we making a +10 a sweaty affair when this is infinitely scaling system. Let the sweats do their +25s and rest of us chill and have a fun time getting portals over the weekend.

Also whomever designed and made Dawnbreaker should be fired. That flying bug fest is an insult to the player base.

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Because 5% of the player base pays the Game. Oh wait Math doesnt work…

If they wanted me playing for longer, they’d fix the issues with holy priest & prot paladin.

This simply won’t happen, a couple of weeks and I’m almost certain Blizzard will either change the affixes, or introduce some other nerf, they can see the levels at which people are doing keys.

Either that or they are betting on stretching out the key content as far as they can so we don’t have people complaining after week 3 that they are at max reward level…

they only need to make Mythic Vault with +8 Keys and everyone would stop complaining. Easy and smooth move

The thing is every expansion, s1 people don’t do as well as they did in s4, if people are still not clearing +10s by s4, we have a problem.

They scuffed a lot of classes.

The casting change is awful for holy priests, we have no interrupt.