Sethrak for the Alliance

And Ankoan are more popular then Gilgoblins. Can’t have it both ways. The Alliance is already the more played faction. My way is to make sure things stay fair.

Wtf???

Even blizzard admited the overpopulation of the horde…

Where you get the alliance is the most played faction?

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Indeed, the Alliance has one allied race short, considering how we got Gnomes with prosthaetics while you guys got a whole brand new race shoehorned as an allied race.

Oh, I see. I thought you were being serious. :laughing:

I’ll go grab the popcorn, just a sec. :popcorn:

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no we need high elves, jinuy and vrykul and naga

Additionally!! :smiley:

No need to fight between allies :slight_smile:

All those races for the Alliance!

Admittedly, High Elves as a new playable race has an incredibly low possibility considering how we got Helf customizations for Void Elves.

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I think the same. But Vrykuls could be cool. If they have the size of the one that in which you transform with a toy (twice as tall of an orc), they wouldn’t have any problems with gates.

They can add hobgoblins to the horde.

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You can have Vrykul if the Horde gets Mogu. Do we have a deal?

Ok for me.

Oh I don’t mind tbh, none of those options interest me, so as you guys wish. :slight_smile:

Sethrak for Alliance, and for Horde…Gnolls!

Oh do shush now, adults are talking.

Well…I mean by Blizzard’s own definition, they couldn’t, ‘Core’ races are chronologically based as in anything up to Pandaren, so anything made playable after MoP is not a Core Race. It’s not that they are more important, just a demographic of time.

NEVAAAAAH!

I hate the idea of Ogres, even though they thematically would make sense. Give us Gnolls!

Depends on Server type, on RP realms, Alliance is massively overpopulated.

Also Blizzard admitting anything means nothing, they don’t have a good track record for knowing the demographic of their own game.

And Alliance got two for the price of one. You don’t get to complain, when you have had two Allied Races hoofed in pretending to be one.

Horde is owed an Allied Race.

Holy mother of…

Hang on, you have Night Elves, you have Void Elves, you have High Elves (Via stealth customisation), now you want High Elves a second time? WHAT? What the heck? Jinyu (Does make sense) Vrykul(Makes no sense) and Naga (MAKES ZERO SENSE!) seriously, Naga, sure, let’s have them. As a Horde playable race, because they have only ever allied with a Horde race…

Thanks but…err. No? Do we get to make our own suggestions?

What is possibly appealing about playing a Hobgoblin?

That’s just weirdly selfish.

Never. The Alliance is my enemy. And I will make them feel unwelcome at any chance I get. The Alliance needs to die. Period. Not up for debate.

idk why people constantly twist this to ‘oh some mean words’
Telling your soldiers that Suramar civilians should be dying on the frontline so that Alliance relief soldiers don’t have too is far beyond a few mean words. I know soldiers in life who would be disgusted to even hear their leadership suggest something like it.
Tyrande and Liadrin were the only horde and alliance factions there, Tyrande was the only example of alliance leadership Suramar saw.
If it was just Tyrande, there would be no Nightbourne left to join any faction

I guess nevermind the fact that the Horde now has a deal with pirate groups in Boralus and de-facto has influence over certain parts of boralus despite being the losers in the war? How come Alliance has to withdraw fully, while the horde basically gets a slap on the wrist?

Tyrande’s concerns about their loyality was perfectly valid as they hid for 10000 years while the night elves who are mostly commoners fixed the nobility’s mess and she was proven true when the nightborne stabbed the night elves in the back and joined the horde and helped the horde burn down their capitol city

so much for proving them self better

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You are absolutely correct on the segregation part, but that was not my arguement.
My arguement was that telling relief soldiers to let civilians get slaughtered as canon fodder on the frontline against the legion is more then ‘a few mean words’ and that because Tyrande was the only Alliance leadership present in Suramar, why wouldn’t Nightbourne look at that and go yikes.
What you are wrong about tho is the backstabbing. There was no alliance to speak of to betray as the actual ruling body of Suramar had already aligned with the Legion.
We were there saving Suramar citizens against opression from their leaderships decision
The same guys Tyrande told them they should be canon fodder too.

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You already have tiragard pirates as allies. Also, Drustvar makes no sense to be a Horde territory much like Nightbourne made no sense being Horde instead of neutral, or Vulpera being Horde instead of neutral.

Same as in MOP after the siege of Orgrimmar. Alliance gives Aszhara to the horde because the power of the potato…

It should be the horde that lost territories and not the other way around

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That’s not the meaning behind her words and you know it! The meaning was: “How come that we are putting our backs helping out a race that did jack bull for a thousand years, allied with our enemies, and yet they do so very little themselves? Every time a nation/faction got atacked, civillians were helping out in defence, forming militias and stuff, yet here people are just running around like chickens!” WHICH WAS TRUE! That was part of what made her concerned that Nightbourne were not trustworthy to be part of Alliance, the fact that all of the issues with them made their “comeback” a tough sell.

Because that was true? You can go yikes however much you want, doesn’t mean it suddenly becomes untrue.

We are not talking about the ruling body though, are we? We are talking about the rebellion. Rebellion that sought freedom from the afforementioned Legion, which is also the point that you for some reason make next, contradicting yourself:

After that, the leadership was in the hands of the First Arcanist, who then basically decided to join the Horde for no real reason other than “she wanted Lorhemar”. You can be mad at me for saying that for however much you want, that is basically 90% of the reason why the Nightbourne actually became horde XD.

P.S. About that backstabbing, adding that after posting since I forgot to address this.
Alliance spent their forces to help Suramar as a gesture of good will thinking that Nightbourne would be neutral since that was basically part of the deal. “We will help you, but don’t do anything stupid, for the love of god” basically. What is the FIRST thing they do after that? They join Horde. Wow. Cool.

Also, part of me basically imagines that this is how the majority of Nightbourne felt during BFA: Wow, being Horde sure is fun, I hope we can reconsile with our brothers and sisters on the Alliance side and live peacefully on our United pla- WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE BURNED THEIR CAPITAL AND GENOCIDED THEIR PEOPLE?!

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in the end tyrande was right the nightbourne have no honor just like the horde so they fit perfectly

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I’d imagine that the Horde does not have any dealing with those pirates anymore after the war, although this is pure speculation and it’s not known.
What is known though is that the Alliance fully withdrew from zandalar, abandoned all their bases and are not allowed to set foot on the continent without permission according to the treaty.