yeah, when at one point a triple digit percentage of AD’s femboy population were verified jade witches, i can make that judgement.
but go ahead and do all the mental acrobatics you need to convince yourself that i /we are ‘the bad guys’ here i guess, whatever helps you sleep at night knowing you defend people who have a sexual interest in children.
Yeah, I know that. Personally roleplay helped me too to overcome the whole shyness thing when approaching others. I can approach people IRL now since I practiced that over and over in roleplay.
Just it would be lit if the characters they create had more personality to them and that their only trait wasn’t “my identity”. Because that’s one of the few issues why people can’t find roleplay with others, singular traits.
People on AD aren’t really in the role to educate others. Also I am not sure what you refer to. Can you elaborate more?
You answered that in your own post:
Just in reverse. It’s because much of the sexism and anti lgbtq+ stuff comes from opinions OOC. It also doesn’t exist lore wise.
You sound confused. None of these topics are related to eachother.
Steering the discussion to the point where you can start throwing baseless -isms and -ists around isn’t a very good way to convince the other of your arguments. I really dislike it when people do that. You know, it’s like how a pigeon plays chess.
I’m not sure where you’re getting this from. I’m defending transgender and homosexual players who wish to be able to express their identity online from someone who thinks being these things automatically makes them want to harm children?
Again, the mind on roided out human male paladin rp is a terrifying thing.
sure thing dude, whatever you say
Not as terrifying as a contrarian individual who pops up time and again with a holier-than-thou attitude and a pole up his backside.
Stay on Classic. Nobody likes or wants you here.
I have not once said a “contrarian” post here, whatever that’s supposed to mean. But good job showing the usual AD hysteria the rest of game’s community laughs at us RPers about.
If anything the OP’s main points show that there’s still a big problem with player attitudes here towards LGBTQ+ players.
Not for you to dictate, sadly.
Ok, I get where the confusion comes from. There are TRP profiles that are overly sexual, to the degree of being blunt ERP bait. This is the case for both straight and non-straight. Lots of people have an issue with bad-immersion stuff happening. It’s ok that you think that it isn’t immersion breaking, but a lot of people think it is. It’s about the level of 500 kilometers tall lightforged draenei. The opinions here differ.
It’s perfectly fine to portray gay, lesbian and transgender characters. When it crosses the line (again, looking at certain TRP profiles) to oversexualizing the profile then it becomes a problem.
Nobody here called transgender / homosexual characters (again, characters not the player) what you described. Just the issue is that if such a character is overly sexualized, then ERP is oftenly not far off. Which in return is a problem because you can’t verify the age of someone and we had quite the experiences with certain individuals that used ERP as a means to groom (underaged) players. I hope this clarifies the situation because you’re on the rights wanting to defend homosexual / transgender people.
You and Ortellus are talking past eachother.
They’re not laughing at anyone but you, and even then they probably stopped four posts ago, now disgusted.
It’s a bit hard to tell from the low resolution of Obilot’s screenshot of the TRP, but is that character model edited?
People showing pics of the game using ‘’’’’‘mods’’’’’ has always been a huge red flag to me. There’s really no innocent reason to ever get those (especially since they are bannable, right?)
I’ve seen the character in-game. I’m almost 100% certain that’s how they look.
I think it looks a bit off because it’s a screenshot taken from a distance and cropped just to show that character and nothing else.
Yes, which I have a problem with just as much as any other reasonable person here, that’s not in dispute.
According to mr jacked out human paladin rp however “femboys” - which is a dubious term at best, are apparently all child abusers which is what i was taking issue with, brushing entire identities of people like that is enough to make any reasonable person feel
I’m completely clear on the situation, I am not condoning grooming, I am defending LGBTQ+ players from being witch hunted by someone who thinks screaming deus vult in roleplay is cool.
You know I’m starting to think that Ortellus was right, and that you might be Lovejoy, because both of you really seem to enjoy riding high horses.
Again, who? You’re throwing these names out here as if we’re all supposed to know which person has done something supposedly wrong when in reality its a tiny subsection of the rp population frequent these forums
ITT: How to cause infighting among people fighting for LGBTQ+ issues: femboys.
hot (but might be actually a cold take lol):
Whether a character is done in poor taste or badly written does not matter when it comes to a LGBTQ+ character, as that can be for many reasons - the player is questioning themselves and trying to make sense of gender expressions, the player struggles with English or in general expressing through emotes/speech, the player simply has a different idea of the gender expressions (but not necessarily wrong).
However, what does matter is when it’s vulgar (as per ToS), or… ERP bait. Skimpy mogs are part of the game, like it or not, so imo describing high heel boots and the like are not the end of the world yet (since also, many artworks of WoW characters wear such garments). When their roleplay becomes very sexually charged beyond basic descriptions (including TRP), it becomes problematic instead.
I think we should use caution at immediately labelling someone as a fetishist - perhaps try to guide and educate instead if they’re actually doing it wrong (such as calling something androgynous while not being that, however an effeminate man can border androgyny).
When it’s clear that they’re nothing else but an ERPer, then sure, burn the jade witches on a metaphorical stake. Perhaps I’m a little naive since ERPers are so commonplace in Stormwind, but having thought about several instances where I’ve met similar characters in RP, I’ve started wondering whether their depiction was just bogged down by other reasons.
Then again, I don’t think I’ve met this particular character before and the description is a little questionable (why mention Taylor Swift’s body negatively?), so maybe people know the person is an ERPer or something else; however I disagree with Obilot’s post calling for a stop on these characters. Don’t paint everyone with the same brush, you’re not really acting better than homophobes et al.
(However, this current argument is just stupid and distracts from the main topic, instead only inflaming people’s emotions while they’re still agreeing with the overall message.)
We can argue that it’s relative to an extent I suppose but for me personally, it’s definitely immersion breaking.
TBH. I wouldn’t equate homophobia with someone’s desire for what they consider to be quality RP. Tad extreme, that.
I’ll have to rake through my discord tonight.
What is a jade witch? I have seen the term now multiple times beeing used and I feel like I’m missing out on some funny joke.
its got a bit too much of an origin story for me to bother explaining in full but in essence it just refers to nonces in a way that doesn’t make blizz immediately swoop in.
You know what else sucks?
I was playing a character who happened to be gay, and someone decided to publicly call me out in an odd and unprovoked way in /e by saying “I sense a woman playing a gay male character lol.” As if my OOC gender/sexuality mattered and connected to my character in any way. There’s a lot more to a character then just their sexuality, but hey, let’s hyper focus on that for some odd reason and call the person out when the character himself didn’t mention it or talk about it all.