Was it a Dwarf? I recall one person who’d do exactly this kind of thing.
It really doesn’t matter who the person behind the character is or which way they lean. Men can (though often fail to) play lesbian characters, women can play gay male characters, and LGBTQ people can play heterosexual characters. Sounds like you just encountered a salty troll.
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On a different forum i recently saw a post from a dude demanding that blizzard should stop Men and Women to create charakters of the opposite sex since this way he can’t use wow as a dating machine.
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No, it is not. It is low res because the character was some distance away from me and I didn’t want to run after it.
Bit of a strange take from you tbh.
Full story is here along with screenshots. Mental. But It wasn’t a dwarf, a human and GM of a guild I can’t remember.
I would have just emoted “Senses a tauren poop that is getting on ignore”
That dude can go right in the bin along with his trash opinion.
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This is broadly what concerns me too – taking a few (highly negative) examples of fetishization and broadening it as a stick to beat anyone who depicts a character outside of more traditional gender roles. Playing a male character who presents as fem or dresses in a certain way does not a fetishist make.
What I often see (and this is more relating to previous threads/convos than this one) is the whole argument premise becoming an excuse for blatant and toxic trans/homophobia, and enabling the use of particular terms as uncomfortable pejoratives.
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I mean the guy who emoted this to Amarianna btw not that you get this wrong.
To be fair, it heavily depends on where I’d see a character like that. If in Stormwind, steer clear / turn the other way / walk away. If a character like that shows up on horde side as part of a guild I know / am familiar with, the situation is drastically different.
Ah, my reply was to;
The hurt person being an edgy dude-bro at Amarianna can also get in the bin with his trash opinion though.
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My point is that there are people who make such characters for a quick ERP fix.
I think that is making a mockery of people who are androgynous or transitioned IRL. It is the same as when someone makes a black character and roleplays it as a stereotype of black people.
This is why I don’t want to see overly sexualized versions of androgynous or transitioned people in game. It’s a mockery, that’s all.
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Yes, I agree that the most infamously negative examples make a mockery of trans people (and more specifically trans roleplayers). I’m not & wouldn’t contest this, because I feel deeply uncomfortable when I see them around.
But I’ve seen too many examples of players making remarks about ‘femboys’ or ‘tr*nnies’ to be comfortable with the direction much of the discourse on gender non-conforming characters either. Like I said, it’s not necessarily the people in this thread, but I think being too strident in criticising those specific players enables the stigmatisation of others.
Yes, they’re bad. Yes, they should called out for it. But under no circumstances should people then say they distrust androgynous or non-conforming characters as a rule / until proven otherwise as a result.
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I agree, and it is usually fairly easy to make the distinction between the two. We just have to be careful, I suppose.
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I get a bit tetchy on the subject because there’s been several discussions on the forums in the past, where previously reasonable / open-minded posters have gone full-throttle into lambasting ‘femboy roleplayers’ without much regard for who that might target or impact
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It can be, though. See: homophobes considering LGBTQ+ themed RP lower quality ‘because it’s forced down their throats’ / ‘you keep bringing it up every few seconds’. All that might’ve happened is instead just a comment or two over the course of the conversation.
It’s not that much different in this case where one bad example is used to talk about an entire group. The picture in Obilot’s post isn’t even that horrible, since all we see is the tooltip version of the TRP. Without knowing the person, going off by what was shown in the picture alone - it’s not really a reason to start a heated argument over whether femboys/ppl using models to play around with gender is good or not.
It’s not always ERP. The character linked, in what was shown, also does not make a mockery of people who are androgynous (no mention was made to androgyny) or transpeople (the character is not trans?). Unless there’s more information that has been omitted.
But if so, it’s not
Right now, it slightly came off as targeting the entire group of RPers as if they need to stop, because some people fetishize their (E)RP in similar fashions.
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Just had a look at the screenshot (which I hadn’t done before now) and honestly I don’t see an issue with it. There’s only limited information given, since it’s just the ‘summary’ and not the profile itself, but what’s there is pretty harmless.
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But thats a problem a lot of people have with the LGBTQ+ movement. If you don’t fully support every part of there cause you are against them and a phob. At least that is the vibe a lot of people get sometimes. Look at what happend to me. I didnt say anything against them in this post. I just sayed that there are extremes on both sides that cause troubles. I saw more then one side of the coin and got emediatly called a phob by 2-3 people.
Are you referring to my post?