Ok let me rephrase that you can make assumtions but I cant ? Yoou can give feedbakc but I cant and am a crybaby?
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This reply doesnât even make any sense. Iâm done with your dumb crap.
YOU are narrowminded. Go wallow in your negativity. 
I am disappointed in how they treated bfa, in how they managed the systems introduced in it and how they handled feedback, I am tired of words with no sustance, I will not give the benefit of the doubt again until they get my trust back.
I already gave them my benefit of the doubt enough times and have been disappointed enough times, theyâll have to get it back.
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Me too.
Me too.
I have more patience, it seems.
Well, thatâs your prerogative, but like I said; it doesnât really help anyone. Not Blizzard and not us, the players.
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The problem is, they said that theyâd do this with BFA and flat out didnât. Itâs all well and good taking them at their word, but when they donât stick to it, its becomes difficult to trust them. We want this feedback heard so we are giving it NOW.
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Not even close.
What I want is for an MMORPG is to not be broken by too much unbalanced and overcomplicated content. Sometimes one additional well-designed ability is better than two or more especially when there is a huge issue with balance.
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I wouldnât say it doesnât, Iâm gonna assume one of the worst possible outcomes because thatâs whatâs happened in the past, I will give them feedback based on this, if Iâm wrong they can just ignore it and move on, if Iâm right theyâll hopefully listen and change it.
It is harsh maybe, but I donât want azerite 2.0, corruption 2.0 essences 2.0 in shadowlands.
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Would you mind sharing that statement?
Well, an explosion of negativity isnât going to help.
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Then why not disable it on the cutting edge content? If it is disabled there it wonât really matter then since majority of the players wonât even play there.
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Look at it this way:
A man promises you to bake you a pizza.
In the past he put pineapple on the pizza. You hated that.
While heâs making you a new pizza, you keep yelling at him:
âI HATED YOUR PINEAPPLE PIZZA! DONâT GIVE ME PINEAPPLE PIZZA! IF YOU DARE GIVE ME PINEAPPLE PIZZA, IâM LEAVING.â
Do you honestly think thatâs going to have a positive effect on that man?
Hell, maybe heâd respond with something like: âNo sir, no pineapple.â
And then he spits into the dough without you knowing.
Negativity breeds negativity.
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Fair question MethodSco is human too doesnt he get to pick a covenant.
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A man promises you to bake you a pizza.
In the past he put pineapple on the pizza. You hated that. And you told him you hate it. He kept putting pineapple on your pizza. You asked again can you stop putting pineapple on the pizza. He answered yes while putting pineapple on your pizza. You start yealling at him and istead starts putting mushrooms on it. He knows you are alergic to mushrooms. You cant but feel abit sceptical and lose faith that he will make you the correct pizza at this point.
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Have you honestly only been reading select words from this thread?
The majority of the people like the overall idea of covenants.
Quite a few even like the abilities.
The only thing weâve been negative about is the (and Iâm going to use mild terms so that you can comprehend it) likely (based on previous experience) negative effect this will have on a large amount of the player base (the one interested in personal performance being based on skill, things that have a large impact on how you play your class i.e. talents being easily changeable and not having to invest large amounts of time because blizzard changed their mind on what your choice actually is i.e. nerfs and buffs to key abilities).
Since we (by we I am only including people who have voiced this as their opinion) have valid reason to believe that this will have a huge negative impact on the game, weâre voicing it loud and clear. The reason the thread may seem overwhelmingly negative is that the lack of foundation behind the statements made by people like you is encouraging us to explain our points as if youâre a child.
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I view it more like this:
That seems like a slap in the face
nah itâs not donât worry
gets slapped
hey that seems like a kick in the guts
nah itâs not dw
gets kicked in the gut
hey that seems like a punch to the stomach
ok, we have seen you didnât like how we handled the other complaints, pinky promise this time will be different.
can you really blame the guy for becoming doubtful and jaded to words?
I have been positive and for sure donât wish for anything negative happening to anyone, but i am not happy (personally) with the work they have done so far, so seeing as my previous worries were found to be true is it not normal to assume they will again? Is it not the most logical thing to do in this situation?
Itâs not like they wonât ever be trusted by me again, but i want some proof of change, seing as words have failed me many a times when coming from them
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So something that I didnât think of and heard now was that you are gating the abilities behind the covenants, DONâT DO THIS!!
The abilities have to be available across every covenant otherwise there will yet again be the one covenant you need to take
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Yeah but people here arenât just yelling they hate pizza. Theyâre saying they dislike it and why. A couple of them are saying what theyâd like instead.
Youâre telling me thatâs ânegativeâ? So how is one supposed to voice concern without being negative in your opinion. Iâve seen little hyperbolic stuff here, people working from evidence which is universally taken to be a reasonable standard to use when judging future performance.
Yet youâre the one standing there going âbut they promised!â Maintaining the ones voicing concern are being unreasonable by smashing them with an accusation of being pessimistic.
Stop conflating scepticism and negativity. Theyâre not the same.
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True, I love the aesthethic concept of covenants, it feels like another iteration of class halls and those were really good and looked fondly on.
The abilities per se seem cool too, weâll have to wait and see how they interact with classes after the un-pruning, the only problem (as with essences and a bit also corruption) is how this system seems to be implemented.
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As weâve concluded before, the claims that are âdoomsayingâ are actually the ones that are the founded claims
Like I said, itâs fine if you have your own opinions but now that youâre calling it unfounded* doomsaying when people donât want to sit back and relax itâs just outright malicious and undermining of the testing process
Blizzard wants our feedback, blizzard doesnât want us to calm down and wait, so stop telling people they should
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Anyone who wants to separate the covenant choice from their ability I hope finds themselves a game they actually want to play instead of trying to take the RP from an RPG.
The absolute minority does content where the difference between these abilities will determine their success. And that is without the consideration of the Soulbinds which are meant to keep these abilities in check and reduce their differences to 1-2% hopefully.
One of the most important decisions in RPG stories is when you have to choose a side in the story and that determines your rewards, the more you take away from that choice, the less it matters. Having given them all the same but recolored ability would have been lazy. The ability retaining the flavours but freely choosable regardless of faction joined would just cheapen the choice when you represent the colours of the Kyrian but spew necrotic bile from your mouth.
Player Agency and the importance of choices LITERALLY means that when you make a choice it is important, impactful and not just a simple whim that the game ignores afterward. Making it a simple talent row cheapens the agency of the player when making that all important choice of a Covenant. A good RPG isnât where you get everything no matter how you choose, a good RPG is where the choice is difficult and shapes your character afterward.
Despite raiding Mythic I will 100% go for the faction that fits my character aesthetically and methodology wise, and run 1 alt each through the other 3. If we all go in with the expectation that Blizzard is gonna screw over the balance, then you might as well not play because the balance of Covenants is the least important compared to Class to Class balance.
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I could say the same.
Thatâs NOT what most of the people in this thread are saying. At all.
Ahuh. 
Thatâs the reverse of a hyperbole. 
The lack of foundation?!
Oh like the lack of foundation of basically all of YOUR claims?!
Right. Pot, kettle. 
Letâs be real here⌠No one here has a foundation of anything they claim, because WE. DONâT. KNOW.
And Iâve been saying that for a while now.
I choose to err on the positive side, rather than the negative side.
If alpha starts and we find out these abilities are horribly unbalanced, I wonât interfere in threads like these. But right now this is nothing more than a witch hunt by a group of angry, scared villagers.