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Let me get you guys in on a lil’ secret… there is this thing known as KS, Known Shippable for bugs where the devs decide that it’s minor enough/obscure enough to not be needed to be fixed, or the fix gets delayed for a minor/major patch.
I work for EA and that’s how it goes in testing. There’s also a certain number of KS issues that needs to be at the end of a cycle, that way you can prove that the number of SE/devs is not over the need for fixing stuff.
Now for Blizz, the same thing applies, except that it’s also for their systems.
Broken system? No time/desire to fix? The players voiced their concerns but we know better about what they enjoy?
Known Shippable stamp!
Blizz be like: You wanna tell the Stakeholders that we got a stamp that ain’t stamping?
Hehe… looks like we’ll have some impurities in this expac.
Don’t worry they will release it to keep the subscription money flowing. Then they will fix the game at 9.2/9.3.
And again 10.0 will be announced shortly after.
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I’m not phased by bugs and unfinished stuff… so even if they release it in an unfinished state i can just pretend that i’m in the Beta. :))
People really struggle to differ unfinished from unbalanced/not according to my vision.
What exactly is unfinished in Shadowlands nowadays?
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i dunno… tbh, apart from a few things SL looks pretty good.
- we know there will be bugs, theres been bugs in every expansion since the very launch of the game… its Never changed. the problem is. when a Expansion is 95% good. playerbase will only remember the 5%.
Every expansion thats ever released, including TBC has been Doomsdayed upon. Has been hated. been percieved to not be ready. and continously had Threads Talking about how bad its gonna be.
SL bar a few things looks good, It remaining in beta longer Wont get the ripcord pulled, they’re simply not going to do it. not atleast prior the launch of the game.
Regardless of how Long they sit in beta, those Convenants wont be balanced. Regardless of how long they sit in beta all those bugs wont be fixed.
why? Because the game itself will run out of Budget before it launchs.
At the end of the day. the Perception given is “i dont like these things… so i dont think its finished”. thats not technically true.
the maw is Unfinished. but its likely there to be a Plot device to advance as we approach the fight with the jailer, 2 months more beta Wont change that. because they’re not gonna Release the content for it UNTIL we go towards fighting the jailer.
The future raids are built on Quest paths they dont wanna Spoil/ruin entirely… so they cant Push that far either. the raids are built on stories inbetween that we’ll do with each campaign.
its built on patch cycles… they’re Not gonna test the future patchs on the games launch Beta as it’ll likely spoil 2 years of content to litterally do that.
COnvenants Dont look balanced. and the fact they’re still Locked are both concerning things. but beta wont fix that. you cant balance those things. Regardless how close they get them. the playerbase will tear em apart with math decide its BiS options and Simply run with it.
they know they cant stop that.
we know they cant stop that.
So what can they exactly do. they could only delay the inevitable realistically. we know theres several layers to their balancing systems. we saw them even put streamers ON those other layers with alot of stuff Not on the beta.
We dont know how long those reworks have actually been tested… we just know that the Beta has just recieved them.
SL itself looks finished, balancing not. but no expansions ever launched Balanced in all honesty…
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Shadowlands will be released in a half-ready state with major bugs fixed. Then it’ll be finished after first major patch. It won’t be different from any other WoW expansion in that aspect. I don’t like this approach, long has gone the days of Blizzard games being ready when it’s ready, but it’s nothing new, really. They got timelines aligned with Activision business needs, so they have to execute within limits of those timelines, that’s about it.
Same question. What is unfinished/not ready?
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I heard you will be able to swap covenants on 10.0.
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They still iterate on covenant abilities, for example.
Wind blows.
Water is wet.
Sky is blue.
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They are balancing them but these are there. Balancing doesn’t mean these abilities are unfinished. Unfinished would be if these abilities are nonexistant, unfinished would be if bosses in raids lack abilities etc. Thats not the case. WoW works like this. Some balancing comes in alpha, some in beta and a lot after launch because live version is simply best for testing purposes when milions of people start playing.
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So when there was lack of content in wod people didnt like it and when they give us more ways to progress specialy in open world so game have more content its also bad. So what exactly you want lol?
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TBC to MoP servers
Being ready when ready =/= completly unbugged game. When vannila launched it had lot of bugs, also tbc, also wotlk and also alll other expansions and all other Blozzard games. People just tend to blow stuff out of proportins. Like what is this shadowlands buggs? There are barely any and if ap its just minor problem. But people find some small bug and everyone is like omg game is unifinished.
And when comes to balancing its lot subjective matter. As there is no way someone can tell something is unbalanced when he plays and test small part of the game. It can also be skill issue. It nothing but bunch of opinions without and solid numbers.
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Vannila and TBC had lot of content to do becouse game wasnt acessible. Everyhing above that had really big prohlem to retain. players as content just become way too easy to finish and there was nothing els to do outside of raiding.
I don’t know what game you were playing back then but that’s definitely not true at all.
Yes it is truth
There were no easy mods, no lfr, no welfare epics from world q, no easy way to farm high end gear from mythic+. Game took far more effort to complete than in future expansion where Blizzard made content so acessible that people run out of content really fast.
Or WoD + server,instead of the old classic + server diea do ti for WoD.
And this time they actumym include shatratha dn grom raid/fight and the ogre continnent.
Vanilla had very little endgame content: the main beef of the game was leveling. This is not the case anymore: in current WoW endgame is king.
In BC they delivered a lot of content, but also required time to do so. When they realized they could not do it in time without compromising quality they actually delayed the release.
Some are afraid that current Blizzard will not delay the release of Shadowlands like the BC team did and will compromise on quality instead.
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