Living Flame EU.
not giving out our discord on the blizzard forums, that would have to be later.
btw. whats wrong with talking here? why do you want to talk in private? seems a bit odd.
Truth
becasue you keep using omitting as an excuse, when in reality i simply cba to type everything out on my keyboard or i forget something, which you then use as part of your argument? with voice i dont have to type,
and when people hear an actual voice they arnt as big they wanted to be on the forums.
i’ll whisper potatomilk yeah?
i want to clarify that its the other guy i initially accused of lying by omission.
if you forgot during the course of our convo, that’s fine, not going to hold you to it as long as you admit it was an honest mistake.
however, i am not willing to give the benefit of the doubt to that other guy, because i have seen him campaign for shaman nerfs for weeks and there is no lie he will not tell in order to get his wish fulfilled…
my man, people like this are on a crusade… they aren’t just bothered by shamans, they want them deleted.
ok, i will get online in a few minutes.
living flame is actually locked on horde believe it or not
Comparing how much mana a Shaman regens over a paladin is a moot point. Yes, Shamans regen more for now because Resto talents are garbage compared to Holy paladins.
Paladins even in classic scaled very well thanks to illumination. Shamans in SoD are a joke, the HPS is beyond garbage(don’t take my word, check WCL statistics and see how far behind Shaman is).
If Shamans didn’t have this absurd mana regen they would go oom in 20 seconds doing f all healing.
The problem with Paladins atm is a lack of a good AoE healing spell(stuff the devs keep throwing at druids endlessly for some reason.)
The only problem with the Shaman mana regen was that it was raid-wide and that was recently addressed with the buff to Martyrdom.
well rip, there’s not much i can do about that.
this is good news, thanks for letting me know.
now we just need to get rid of the last remaining bots on here, and our server (at least our faction) will be bot free, like the good old days of locked flame.
so youre talking about actual healer vs healer correct? hpal vs resto sham?
Imagine 6 people upvoted this… This is why the community is complete garbage, full of ignorant toxic idiots.
When was resto Shaman the “best” healer ever in SoD? When was Shaman the best dps in P1?
At least try to make up a convincing lie. Oh also I like how you trip on your own STUPID and admit in the last part “Nerf them to irelevancy again please”… so you do know they were irrelevant at some point.
Yes: https ://sod.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/2009#metric=hps (Tells the story well enough)
ok well i dont know much about that area, and its not something that anyone is really upset about,
i think the issue players are finding is the damage dealers, coming across a dps shaman or ret paladin in open world or a bg, and having to deal with all their utility, in this case its mana regen which is the topic of discussion.
bare in mind i havent played the new pvp changes so im probably very wrong with that statement.
You know who is upset about? Anyone actually playing a Shaman seeing absurd things being claimed in threads like this, that’s who.
Like this guy claiming a Shaman healed himself from 20-30% to 80% with ~500 heal… A MIRACLE!
Or this clueless nob:
comparing apples to oranges, not knowing a single thing about how Shamans work and why Shamans have the regen they have.
Or the post I already quoted above and so many others.
well these threads are created by players that dont main shaman, players that have to deal with shamans in bgs and openworld,
i dont see anyone thats defending shamans that arnt shaman mains, all it would take is 1 hunter to say you know what, shamans arnt that good, 1 mage to say it, 1 druid to say it,
but not once have i seen that, it seems every class is sick of shamans, and its only the shaman mains that are defending it,
like i said before, im neutral on the topic, im just doing the digging, not once have i cried about the class or said they need nerfing this phase, im simply looking.
In what world have you been living mate ?
As a Shaman main who played SoD from the start(resto, ex holy paladin btw) I can say that Enhancement is problematic, the ability to heal so much instantly and for free with Maelstrom is the crux of the issue.
But people aren’t reasonable, they suddenly lump Elemental into it, and then even Resto… Resto!!! the weakest healer out of them all, a corpse held straight by a crutch that is mana regen given by the Devs so that Resto works at all even.
look closer. plenty such posts all around the internet, outside of the forums as well.
hmm ive never seen anyone complain about resto, and if they have they need to check themselves,
but yes enhancement literally reeked havoc in P2, i hear is still badish in p3 but not as chaotic.
im afraid this topic really doesn’t effect me enough to search other corners of the internet,
the wow forums is enough degen for me, after this convo i need to rest for a while 
yeah, that’s because shamans has been nerfed. multiple times. so now only people like that mage with the “brilliant maffs” are left crusading to get the class nerfed.
we are no longer in phase 2. stop living in the past and stop listening to people that do.
like that paladin above who really want to get into this debate with me, which i ignored for now.
for christ sake even Bowzo (a notorious shaman hater) admitted they’re perfectly fine now.
I’m not gonna comb through the 100 something replies but just at the top with 6 upvotes even
Anything that Pyromaniac guy/thing ever posts…
Guy here fighting 1k HP shamans, only explanation for someone managing to heal themselves with Riptide from20-30% to 80% when Riptide heals for ~450 instantly.
That’s my point, this thread is full of bad faith actors, biased toxic people literally making s*it up with no bother to even research to make a convincing lie.