Should players who do M+20 or above be rewarded mythic tier weapons?

then why you bring gear issue into matter that has very little to do with gear?

Yea, but it was that + the tier sets.

Because I do not have the hp to survive eudora on tyran +22 and i die to one tick of grievous on +21.

If i had 418 I would not be one shot, I would survive. I am actually incapable of doing the boss because I get one shot from full. Yes I can line of sight it but as a melee that more than halves my dps which makes the fight undoable.

Yes I do it for fun, yes it is a good feeling timing keys. No it’s not fun to be limted by gear when i have completed 150+ keys at 15 and above. I do not mythic raid so I cannot get mythic level loot without luck and if I get a lucky titanforge it may not even be an upgrade due to how stats work

You have like 400 boots and 2x 410 weapons. Rest ist 415 and above
If you expect mythic raiding to push you gear harder, then you are mistaken. You better spend Titan Residuum on traits with more survival or chuck a stamina flask for that one fight

Most of my loot is from mythic plus, meaning a 415 is a lucky drop. In mythic it is the base drop meaning I do not rely on luck. And I would have more warforges pf 420/425.

Higher base ilvl from high mythic plus will also make pushing that content feel more rewarding to more people.

I popped a stam flask and still got one shot so now I sit and pray for rng titanforged piece

I think guaranteeing Mythic weapon drops from +20s would be a bad idea.

Giving it a higher baseline ilvl across the board would seem more reasonable.

It’s not. Do not forget that m+ rewards even failures, in time or off time makes no difference in terms of ilvl.
Raiding is kill and loot or no kill and go cry in a corner.

OK so a +20 or above on time could reward higher?

To be honest I can’t see them changing it. The proportion of the player base capable of completing such keys is fairly small.

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I still prefer a weekyl upgrade token for >+15 in time, or cosmetic rewards.

Even if the playerbase who can do that content is small, they are still the ones on which myth raiding is tuned on.
Raising the ilvl on something farmable would mean tuning the raid to a level that will be then inaccessibile rather than very difficult to the above average guy.

Imagine if method or so would have got access to farmable 415+tf, how powerful they could have become before crucible and how even harder would have need to be tuned the fight.

If you raid you pretty much have to do M+ but the not all mythic raiders push that high a key, you’d be setting a new requirement.

Ummm… excuse me sir, but… Champions of Light. Mythic. Drops 2h weapon 415. And this boss is easier than Freehold+7.

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Sure they are lucky drops.
But you have multple chances of your M+ Loot TFing, uinlike in Mythic raid, where you get only one Loot per week.

Debatable.

Still, is a 1-2 possibile loot chanche every week, and only for a kill, while i can fail all the m+ i want and still have a chance to loot

You need key first and getting +20 isn’t easy. Assuming you have decent group you have +2 key, you push it 3 times for +3. now you have +11, now you have to push it all the way to +20, which most of the time ends with pushing by +1. But, let’s be optimistic. Two times +2, now you have +15. Now it’s much harder. You need to finish dungeon in time FIVE times to get your +20 key. Besides difficulty, that consumes time and we assume it was oneshotted. In case of failure you need to redo the key.

Champions can be easily pugged, there is no “debate”.

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No, my guild collapsed so I stopped playing as much. Then a friend wanted to level new characters together and I got Keymaster. Wasn’t difficult at all, even though it was just the two of us pugging.

In fact, I pugged all the way to 1945 io score simply because it is as easy and simple as that.

Which is higher than you. Too difficult?

Dubious on this, I don’t want to see M+ gear turning up with terrible stats on some pieces just to try and force people into raiding. I know there is overlap but I’d say overall M+ is far more popular.

Agree with this +20s should drop 415s and give a 425 weekly chest

And once a new mythic raid is opened, it’s cleared the same night?

Let’s handicap method to 415 loot like in MDI
Ez

Why the whole game should be balanced around people who get money to do raids as a job

you also get more loot.

Who cares about this 999 people?!

Srsly I dont, also I don’t mind them getting 415 loot, but that’s another story