Simple QOL AV Improvements

Thats another problem the alliance has to deal with. Seems like half our raid is just zerging at Balinda gy instead of assisting south or defending the base. They accepted that they will lose anyway and let their base burn down to join the next AV instantly after.

Concerning your other point:

Yes, I believe you that you are often alone the moment you backdoor into alliance base. Sooner or later someone will come to def but also Horde number increases. However, I’m usually one of the first going to defend because I want to turn in my Mats before its not possible anymore and in most cases there is a group ganking me the moment I teleport there. Just of curiosity, does an elite protect the Dun Baldar gy like an elite does in your base?

Lmao talking about op fear ward when half of your faction is immune to fear, the other half immune to stun.

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So 50% of the horde is Orc, and 50% is Undead? We have plenty of Taurens and Trolls too really.

But, you prove that alliance have Trolls too

Your IQ is probably close to zero. Horde is outnumbering alliance exactly because of OP racials. If alliance would roll horde, you would have queues of 1 hour+…

Funny thing how out of all my wins against premades not even 10% used backdoor. Ones that did failed at it as it was only 2-3 people using it.

yes the tauren and troll races ~10% of the horde the others are orcs and undeads Im more than sure about that. Even if it would be more, did you really try to compare “op” pve racials to pvp when they talk about pvp unbalance? Pve racials could be only a problem for mobs or raid bosses its not your problem unlike being immune to stuns etc.

@Dondarion, Diokhan: According to unofficial statistics, about 38 to 44% of the Classic horde are forsaken, roughly 25% orcs, around 20% trolls and tauren at around 15+%. Depends a bit on what time period / level range / realm you are looking at. The numbers above are rough world wide overalls.

@Myself: Personal .lua file: Zandalar Tribe (horde), sample size 2488: Undead 1 001 (about 40%), orcs 596 (about 24%), 444 tauren (about 18%) and 447 trolls (about 18%).

would be interesting to see the distribution of classes for that too.

For Mages in PvP UD is the best race to pick and they cant be orcs.

@Partial: For ZT… 400 mages (about 15,5%) in my .lua file of which 73% are undead and 27% trolls.

EDIT: Sample size is now 2 582 total.

Thanks, what about the other classes ?

If you dont mind the work.

@Partial: I am currently playing my characters on ZT horde, so it is not huge thing… Let me see… Sample size on file is now 2 815 characters, split now as follows (slightly rounded, because accuracy of 0,01s is not needed as this is just a sample):

Mages now about 15,3%, warlocks 10,1%, druids 9,6%, priests 11%, warriors 17%, shaman 11,5%, rogues 15,2% and hunters 10,7.%

How can WotF be OP if you dont have to use it anyway? I can count the times i get feared by a priest or Warlock on one hand when i play AV.

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I dont think most people had AV in mind with the racials but WSG & AB.

There the racials make a bigger difference.

Thank you !

Sorry mate, not gonna happen. Either quit the game so horde gets instant ques or reroll alliance. There is no way blizzard will hotfix this, because there is nothing to fix.

Nice, so 82% of players, alliance have to deal with in pvp, have imbalanced racials, how fun can it be.

Love to fight against trolls, its like fighting against alliance team in arena, so easy

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Shuffling the queues was something I’ve been saying for the past week to my colleagues in BG’s. It’s entirely necessary at this stage. This kind of “premade” method is clearly bypassing restrictions set in the client. It’s essentially an exploit.

Yeah remove the only advantage the under populated dying faction have, 10/10 idea man. One more idea, blizzard should remove every epic gear piece from the alliance players so they have to play in blues and greens and the horde players should start at lvl60 with full naxx gear.

go back kill lowbies or zerg 5v1 to menethil ship and keep av as it is, ty