Its so funny reading back on these comments when we now know no server has had more than 3 layers since early september.
Peoples “proof” of this “mass exploiting” was nothing more than chinese whispers as is standard with the wow forums where everyone has to overreact 24/7 and make mountains out of molehills. No proof has ever been given because it doesnt exist and never happened.
these threads are so funny with their made up pirate stories
Blizzard can see everything you do in this game, any item you get, any gold, any experience, the things that drop, discarded, etc. They have all the data. Like any other game… They see everything. So if someone tells you that have done this, done that and never gets banned = probably bulls*it.
It may take a while for some to get banned, yes, but it will happen.
0 evidences. 0 annoumcements.
Whats is hard to understand for me is why you’re making such statements without any sort of proof.
You have no idea what you are talking about, mate. It doesnt ruin anything, it just makes them richer. No effect on the economy as a whole.
There was an announcement however Blizzard will never discuss what punishments they dish out. They aren’t going to say ok Planescape, just for you we are going to break all our rules and disclose who was banned and what they received. That’s not how it works.
If you want to believe that no one was punished for exploiting then be my guest.
I understand there are ethical and possibly legal reasons for not discussing individual cases.
But none of that is stopping Blizzard from disclosing the extent of the exploiting and what actions they’ve taken in terms of aggregate numbers.
If you’re going to be a smartbehind, please have the smarts to back it up.
It may make them richer in absolute terms, but it makes them poorer in relative terms.
Plus, this is not even a case of richer=better, if the exploit increased the average ilvls instead of resources, would you see things the same? It’s okay because everyone’s got better gear out of it?
It’s just not information they’ve ever released nor are they about to start. However, people are usually fairly vocal on other sites when they are banned.
That they don’t do it, I can see that for myself.
That they have a good reason not to, this is where I disagree.
As for people being vocal, on those other sites you mention I can’t say I’ve seen any credible reports of bans or suspensions.
And this is talking strictly about abusing layering in instances, it’s not even touching on all the ways layering was exploited since launch.
Layer hopping was the biggest, most impactful thing, a player could do to speed up his progressing, outweighing things like spec or gear. It’s how just about every player who reached the end-game in the first two-three weeks got ahead of the pack, yet not a single word from Blizzard about their stance on the practice, that again left legitimate players with the short end of the stick.
Im not even arguing whether layerhopping is an exploit, all Im saying is someone having extra resources from abusing it doesn’t affect the economy in the way some people claim it does.
Few individuals being rich doesn’t harm others, like whats the worst that could happen, devilsaur leather being 3 gold cheaper? Big deal.
It’s not just about those resources being present in the game economy, it’s also about in whose hands they’re present.
And absolutely harms others, because while I may need to farm for 15 hours to afford a Freezing Ring, the same thing took perhaps 2-3 hours for the guy who farmed devilsaurs hopping across 4 layers.
Thing is, some people got rich with layering, and wasted the possibility of others making money in the long run
Apparently it will get even ‘better’ now that they announced Dire Maul ahead of both their Phase-schedule (despite the Blue Sticky claiming DM creates ‘obsoletion issues) and Vanilla-timeline (over 100 days US vs 50 ish days of Classic), and its lucrative Tribute Runs.
Seems they are going to just sweep it all under the carpet, and even ‘reward’ those who zipped to 60 (too many of whom did this at least partially by layer abuse and exploiting) and hence whine about lack of content by releasing DM - not PvP - ahead of schedule.
And, as ‘icing on the cake’, they put up Ion as spokesperson for Classic development/release.
Not exactly enhancing the trust in Blizzard’s handling of Classic.
And let’s not even go into the whole ‘Blitzchung’’ controversy as outlined on e.g. Msn and Forbes (Chinese Hearthstone Tournament winner banished for a year for speaking put in support of the Hong Kong protestors, interviewers fired) and his apparent year (!) long banishment, and compare it with how this whole matter in Classic has been handled.
Yep, they are pandering to the no lifers
I’d care but its mobile
Anything mobile yeah theyre gonna go with China
Maybe its time we stop demanding companies act like governments, whats Blizz gonna do, send a merc army to protect Hong Kong?
Would China have gone ‘Oh my god youre right! How could I have been so foolish’ if Blizzard said no to what definately are Chinese demands?
Want to pressure other countries? Look those politicians you voted into power in the eye, arent they doing anything? Then maybe its time for new politicians next election
I didn’t and don’t want to drag all this into the Classic Forum as I hate it when real world politics get dragged into games.
It is one of the reasons I hate it Blizz so far hasn’t upheld its Rp Naming Rules on the only (now Overpopulated) Classic RP Realm, I don’t want to bounce my Gnomes in Azeroth and then get confronted with ‘Go Vegan!’ or ‘Frying Dutchmen’ or similar things (not all examples are made up).
Same with the Tracer butt stuff and other pandering to ‘wokeness’.
Like I said elsewhere, I even understand and support that they sanctioned the youngster(s?) involved, if this means no more political stuff like mentioned above, so much the better.
But they went completely overboard with the year long ban for something that wasn’t a selfish exploit, let alone in light of how they (mis)handled the too rampant abuse and exploitation that took place with Classic.
I personally believe that is a fair point to make, if you are going to ban a bunch of kids for worrying about their country and people for a whole fricking year ‘because we don’t want to offend people’ (basically the bylaw they based the ruling on) doing close to nothing , not even opening up new clean Servers, in regards to the completely selfish abuse and exploits is a bridge too far and not something that strengthens my belief in the current team (apparently Ion, of all people) handling Classic well enough to warrant investing my time and money much further.
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