So it looks like exploiters keep exploiting, no bans happening. Look how nostalrius managed exploiters. Bans happened

[Zhakhan-razorgore]

Asking for a layer invite isn’t against any rules.
Your own made up scrub rules of fair play or whatever have nothing to do with this.

[Elså-draenor]

@Grobluk-blackrock

@Nuckels-nordrassil

Got any actual evidence of exploiters still exploiting, evidence of exploiters not getting banned nor their items removed?

Hard evidence of course is tough to come by.

However I can safely assume that there’s a fair bit too many Black Lotus’ in the auction house, given the fact that there’s only a total of 1 for each zone it spawns in an hour, and the same person currently has >30 Black Lotus’ in the auction house. It is of course possible that this person has spent a sizeable amount of time farming them (or playing the auction house), however I find it somewhat unlikely that a single person got this many through legit means.

And the amount of Devilsaur Leather fluctuating around is somewhat suspicious as well, but again could be related to the amount of layers.

So while I personally have no hard evidence, I do still have quite a few suspicions about people deliberately hopping layers to camp spawns or similar.

Also there is of course the /layer channel, which is dedicated to hopping layers. Whether or not these people use it to abuse layers, rather than escape an alliance gank squad or search for a named is questionable as well, but there comes the question what exactly is “abusing layers”?

Or what is more likely there is nothing to do in endgame and thousands of people spend all that time farming . Effectively crashing markets becusse since people kill rag on quest Greens there is 0 need for profesion gear enchants or gems

[Benix-razorgore]

@Basara-noggenfogger

That won’t fix anything.

Why yes, i will still continue to report the exploiters.

[Wpowerranger-mograine]

Yeah also giving us 1.12 itemization and nerfs to raids is a clear indicador they do not want us playing here

[Osangar-aszune (Osangar)]

What on earth has this got to do with your original post?

[Bàckstàbber-outland]

Honestly at this point i start wondering why i’m still not using layering into my favor like most people are i keep seeing msges all the time asking for layers

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

Those exploiters were punished.

[Planescape-flamelash]

You got proof of it, right?

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

The exploiters received bans.

I’m sorry that is so hard to understand.

[Kamran-shazzrah]

@Punyelf-draenor

The exploiters received bans.

Not all of them.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

You don’t get to deem who is and isn’t an exploiter.

[Anvarra-terokkar]

@Remiv-firemaw

@Punyelf-draenor

who have done nothing but complain and say everything is wrong since day 1.

What about the actual, legitimate criticisms that people brought up about classic?

Blizzard remains silent as a fish about any actual, real, legitimate issues that classic has

which is the biggest writing on the wall.

Pretty odd to think that with Asian games, from cultures that place actual value in ‘face’, developers have no qualms whatsoever about ‘owning up’ and if need be re-booting - Final Fantasy XIV being the prime example but ArcheAge doing a B2P reboot is another recent one - yet for all the glaringly obvious issues that Classic has (basically boiling down to being completely unaware and unappreciative of how popular it would be, despite all the indicators) there is little to no communication and no indication whatsoever that exploiters have been banned on the Web (unlike has been the case with each and every other banwave).

ToS breaches regarding the Naming Policy of RP Realms are a month in still not dealt with, either, even in blatant cases like people naming their character after an English slang term for women’s genitals.

It is really, really disturbing and disheartening, as the Vanilla gameplay itself - let alone Azeroth unblighted by The Sh*ttering - is fun.

Still, already one Account lapsed and this one will follow if this (to be as friendly as possible) amateurish behaviour on part of Blizz will continue.

[Danaos-firemaw]

There was a Dwarf Rogue in server Firemaw with full Tier 1 Nightslayer around Sep 15. This was reported to the Warcraft Devs on Twitter.

Haven’t seen him lately though.

[Stee-silvermoon]

Everytime I see someone asking for a #layer in /world or /LFG I cringe

[Fulloflife-shazzrah]

Well I still see players who get their 100% epic mont 2 weeks after the launch, still playing.

[Awaré-alonsus]

You are wrong, Blizzard just sweeped the whole issue and exploiters under the rug and hopes everyone will eventually forget it. Also they haven’t done anything about Devilsaur leather item dupe. Don’t know if one should cry or laugh.

Players who don’t exploit are so much behind it’s a joke.

[Yserrar-zandalar-tribe]

Yep, they havent done a thing and still behave very amateurish. Lot of people kept on saying things even before they released the game, they didnt gave a damn too.

Layering and such still pretty meta and stupid, blizz doesnt give a damn about anything, Guess this emulation and the people who did it is not my kind of game.

[Zenith-bloodfang]

I’m not surprised, I expected this to happen.

At this point I’m sticking around in the hope they release fresh no-transfer realms at some point in the coming weeks.

And I also hope the powers that be come to their senses and wholesale fire the dev team in charge of Classic launch.

[Dahlia-darkmoon-faire]

@Wpowerranger-mograine

Anyone using exploits in Nostalrius

Nostalrius was an exploit, sorry.

[Anvarra-terokkar]

@Zenith-bloodfang

I’m not surprised, I expected this to happen.

At this point I’m sticking around in the hope they release fresh no-transfer realms at some point in the coming weeks.

And I also hope the powers that be come to their senses and wholesale fire the dev team in charge of Classic launch.

Hopefully the recent (start of) removing layers is a first step in adressing the issues but we will have to wait and see.

Though personally I do my waiting basically here at the Forum, and am not going to add game time unless I see concrete proof of Blizz actually tackling the matter. Paying Blizz and hoping for better is not a winning strategy IMO.

Regarding the last bit of your post: yeah reassignements to other games or stronger actions seem appropriate, considering the hole they dug for themselves.

Now with the removal of layering driving home the interest in the game, if they go forward they’ll have to explain why they are apparently intending to drive off customers instead of creating new Servers (and then if need be Connect them later on). That is going to make for interesting conversations…