So many paladins rerrol i curious why ? is it because of pvp superiority?

Is that so?

It’s almost as if some of us are interested in the game actually being dynamic and fun, and can provide criticism and points against their own classes! amazing isn’t it :o.


And then once again you’re just completely disingenuous:

Paladins do the same thing, over and over. Repentence → Set up seals (HoJ if they trinket) → Crusader Strike + Judgement. This right here is the most boring and obnoxious gameplay there is. There’s no variety based on class, it doesn’t make a difference if rogues are attacking you, in my last 4 weeks of playing SoD I didn’t see a single ret equip a shield, opt to kite or use any of the options they have against melee classes. Why? Cause they’re the big fish in the pond. They’re a hybrid class that is dominating other Melee classes. It’s absurd, and poor game design. Hence why people are complaining about it.

But your points on these classes are valid;

  • Flame shock spamming into LB is lame AF. I personally would invite the idea of removing lava burst entirely, it’s ruined any ele shaman gameplay. Shamans have become worse for it placing all their efforts into dmg rather than survivability. Something which I believe should be the staple of a hybrid class in SoD they’re just fire mages with mail.
  • Perhaps there should be some shared CD on decoy totem and grounding totem
  • Druids applying 2 dots + starfall is boring
  • KS spam is ridiculous.

BUT, THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT ANY OF THOSE CLASSES. IT’S ABOUT HOW PEOPLE STRUGGLE AGAINST PALADINS. This is really not a hard concept to understand.

This right here is the problem. BUBBLE IS A DEFENSIVE COOLDOWN! It shouldn’t be worth going invincible to do dmg, it’s an option to provide more survivability in a situation that’s appropriate. I’ve not once seen a warrior complain that they don’t do dmg while using shield wall. This is why I say you should have no input into balance, you’re incapable of holding a fair opinion. You can’t look at things beyond your own struggles. Anyone who struggles with paladins is bad at the game, but any time you struggle with: -insert spell here- that’s the only issue that matters. No matter the amount of people who are tired of paladins doing 8 hits in 1 global.

I’d love to see you as an enhance shaman, in a game of WSG run into the oposing team with shammy rage up, 2h wep out and survive. Not even kill anyone or make contact with anyone, just run into the centre and run out. Who wants a bet which CD serves best there?

Once again you completely lack the ability to apply context to any of these complaints about Shammy rage and barkskin. Is it the skill itself that’s OP or the specs/set ups able to abuse it? Why don’t you take a second to think of it from the context of a resto or enhance shaman, 2 specs I’d argue that are in desperate need of a wall/defensive. It’s completely bad faith, you come from the point of the most OP set up and argue the most fringe points. No one believes a tank shaman needs shammy rage, no one would argue that ele shamans need to have unlimited mana. But resto shamans are incredibly weak to things such as stuns and silences. Enhance shamans tend to need an answer to CC and high dmg as their healing tends to be pathetic. Perhaps the issue lies with the 2 lame specs rather than the skill itself.

r14 enhance shaman here with full blood moon off pieces. I quit SoD 4/5 weeks into phase 7 because I had enough of getting globalled by paladins with worse gear than me and then because to use your favourite phrase paladins are quite clearly the “FOTM” currently, every other alli I saw was one. - But I wasn’t allowed to complain about that, people like yourself and the other paladin mains either claim I’m lying or there’s some nefarious set up as if I was just out to get paladins nerfed for the fun of it. It wasn’t that for beat a pala in a few pieces of t1+t2 I had to jump through hoop after hoop and then if they caught me, or I didn’t have my appropriate CD/setup ready I’d have 60-75% of my health deleted instantly

“been on both sides” this is BS, you talk like this constantly yet exclusively pander to anything paladin related. You couldn’t even simply say “Yes paladins are imbalanced”:

You aren’t unbias, and as said earlier you degrade all the threads you engage into petty insults and pointless comments cause it to become a tribalist mess.

This is a huge part of the class design in this iteraction of the game. The class was thought up with the intention to mitigate spells and attempts to kite with things such as dispells, blessings and auras while having them be 8% faster than most other classes naturally. But in SoD you can chose to have a slow, or an interupt through runes, both of which were missing previously! It just requires a more well rounded gameplay.

Paladins have so much available to them it’s actually insane that you genuinely think you’re lacking anywhere. They practically every option and mechanic availble to them, but you’re still not happy because they don’t last long enough? Because shamans get a longer duration sprint?

It’s pathetic. If you can’t acknowledge how good you have it, and can only ever echo the same crap that no one is arguing against you will never be satisfied.

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