Why are you guys arguing with someone who got most of their 55 posts from the one thread you keep feeding troll content to? Just let it die. Obvious troll should be obvious 
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Have you ever seen someone gather a manual group for a normal or a heroic dungeon? Exactly.
I’m all for it - I hate M+ anyway, and anything that will contribute towards its removal will be better for me. Your suggestion will continue down the path of making pugging absolutely miserable, while increasing immensely the rewards of being in a proper guild.
If dealing with the dungeon finder is too much, I don’t think of doing high m+ keys. It’s not gonna happen.
Yes, it requires 0.5 points of focus to do LFR. I WANT to do LFR cuz the plate tmog from it is so cool, but I can’t bring myself to do it, because it’s so braindead. See, I chat up my friends on FB while tanking bosses in LFR. I am a quick typer but still. This is not focused gameplay. You can totally watch a show while doing LFR.
I wouldn’t use an M+ queueing sytem if they gave me money for it. But not against it being there for whoever wanted to use it.
Exactly what? How does that relate to anything? They don’t have to do it so why would they waste time with that if theres a MM system, like the one im talking about?
All for what?? Im not for removing it or contributing to anything related to that. You misunderstand my points.
Both pugs and mythic are systems you can ignore, no need to make yourself miserable.
If thats somehow a problem for you, why would you do it? Why not try mythic cn? You make absolutely no sense.
They will never make mythic matched content unless it will become the new LFR. They stated in an interview/qa/etc(search it i cba finding it) that they are looking at succes metrics when matchmaking is being taken into account in PVE. They measure the % chance of finishing the content and if something is too hard they nerf it so their % chance of clearing said matchmade content is close to 100%. Unless you want mythic to be no mechanics theres no way you will get matchmaking content above heroics and lfr.
(This is my take on it)I believe they ran some data and showed that if people engaging in matchamaking content do not have a certain % of succes they just leave the game sooner later than later so losing them money ==> so they dumb the mathmade content and put arbitrary restrictions to make sure you will be successfull.
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And then you just ignore everything else and stay on the point about players will not like such system.
Is it hard to find people to do group content these days? While we were raiding with my guild I had no toxicity at all, sure I might of wanted to have more longer raid times and more raiding days but still. It just looks like you’re either ignorant or have some kind of prejudice against finding people to play with yourself and just want everything automated which doesn’t fix everything.
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Thats just a horrible idea. If the success % of something is low the logical thing to do is let people improve at it rather than nerf it. Ofcourse i would not want a nerfed version of mythic, the whole point is that its harder. The last few LFR runs i did nobody explained anything and about 2 people died in total. At this point most people who do them (for whatever reason), in my experience, recognize mechanics and do them near instantly. That means they are learning. I do belive that people can clear higher difficulty raid content with LFR, even if it takes time. Nothing i’ve seen points otherwise. I just don’t see how having MM will drop subscriptions.
What did i ignore?
Find people? No. Find people that will accept you for said content? Yes. Will MM make it easier? I think so, yes.
Im glad you found such a guild. Thats not everyones experience, however hard to imagine that may be for you.
I’ve never stated anything like that tho. I don’t mind the insults, i mind you putting words in my mouth. And the goal isn’t to fix everything, if only because thats virtually impossible because of many factors (like the fact we may disagree on what needs fixing), it’s to improve one aspect of the game.
Play with pugs, bad people? Move on. Trial and error until you find people you click with thats that.
Bad and toxic people in the guild you are. Leave it and go find another. I don’t understand the idea of staying in a trash or dead guild just because. I was in a dead realm and found a good one so can everyone else.
None of my words that I posted here were in any way or aspect insults, don’t put labels on me or what I didn’t even say. As in everything automated - Queue, click one button, set difficulty, find match if this isn’t basic automation then I guess I’m wrong.
Also to improve what exactly? Amount of people trying higher raids and M+ with random people? If you want to try and see what will happen if there would be an LFR or LFG for the most difficult content make a group and invite people at random and try to finish it.
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This is your take on it,i’ve just more or less quoted(tried my best to remember correctly) what the gist of the article/interview is. It’s their game after all and they have the data behind ,maybe the % succes rate of matchmade content that is done by the more casual community(that have less time to play) is corelated to how much time they spend in wow and if that would be lower they would spend less time.
Not much more to say on the subject ,really low chance to get higher matchmade content(not 0 cause you know classic happened,but really low).
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The game is something you can ignore, rather than being the Elon Musk of terrible suggestions.
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Agreed. There no pugs for mythic tho. No true pugs because of elitist gating.
Or add a MM system. Honestly why does it bother you so much if people want to do things differently?
If you don’t consider that an insult, thats fine.
I never did.
Thats part of the process of finding a group being automated. The part that requires no skill (unless you count reading about metas and RIO a skill)
The matchmaking process.
Why did you assume it wouldn’t have ilvl and/or previous clear requierments? You belive the system will group up 5 dps for +15? No such system is even in development even, because of people with alot of prejudice against it with no good reason about why. (funny you claimed im was the one with “some kind of prejudice” in context).
This was never about how likely we are to get it, but why certain people are against it.
You claimed they made you feel miserable, i stand behind my suggestion to ignore them if that is the case.
Uh, what? I’ve pugged most of my mythic dungeons.
It’s not really a pug if someone descides on their own who should join and who should not or if it’s a guild group. You were in somebody’s premade group.
Finish a Mythic0. Get your key, find people to do that +2, +3 etc. key. You can’t gate your own key. That’s how the so called elitist got their keys too.
I guess I should’ve used “uninformed”.
Hide people ilvl(as in put a finger or tape on that spot, works too), put a minimum ilvl restriction(not higher than your own), if you’re dps, get two dps at random, 1 healer, 1 tank there you go try out how well it will go. I thought you knew that this can be done in-game but I guess you were uninformed.
I guess you’re one of those people who think that the “elite” for some reason don’t allow you to do other content… Can’t change that idea for you.
No it wouldn’t.
Because 3/4s of us would see that’s a trap and refuse to use it.
FFXIV has this allowing you to queue for all and any content accept the playerbase basically agrees to not use those queues for certain content
M+ requires to much communication and more to embrace.
The reason it matters to us is because blizzard dumbed dungeons down to begin with to appease lfg players.
Leave this one to premades.
That’s a new player trap in disguise we both know it
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Nah, I just press invite on the first people to apply as either role in mythic dungeons.
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Yes it is? Youve made a group with random players who’ve applied to join you. Lol. That’s the definition of pugs.
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Yes you can. You choose who joins and who doesn’t. What you base that on is up to you.
What do you think i am uninfored of, then?
Minimum ilvl and clear requierments. I think it will go pretty good, depending on the level of the dungeon.
Like how i falsly think an “elite” would deny the possibility for MM in mythic?
No problem there. You say that as if its a problem. Don’t use it, by all means.
I don’t play that so i’ll skip but let me just say, different games.
You fail to give any examples of your claims so im not gonna argue wild claims.
Now imagine if you didn’t have to click on that, and said people actually have experience at lower level dungeons or otherwise they wodun’t even show up. What a huge game changer, right?
No, you chose random people and allowed them to join you. You could deny them just as easily. And thats ignoring higher keys, where that simply doesn’t happen.
doesnt matter whether you reject or invite them. its still a pug if you run content with people you do not know.
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it Splits the population between functions they use. which slows both sides down entirely… its not a case of “dont use it and it wont affect you”. it’ll devide the playerbase.
wild cards? the poeple who play FFXIV. are human like us.
When they devided us by faction? What we do. on a majority run to 1 Faction.
when u devide Players by Queue v Premade? What will we do? the majority will take one and reject the other.
Ur asking for us all to accept a SLOWER loop into getting groups. to DEVIDE a playerbase based on their OPINONS to how to get into a group.
Im so happy blizzard dont read feedback… honestly i am… cause Silly ideas liek this post would Wreck this game. honestly… i’ll pay a Increaseds Sub if it means blizz agrees to never aknowledge such ideas.
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