I’m ok with that.
#BaineForWarchief
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Bullsh!t ![:laughing:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/laughing.png?v=6" ":laughing:")
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(Not an honest statement… I really don’t know)
people want baine to grow a spine for years and when he finally does they’re not happy, wtf bros ?!
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it’s because sylvanas already went bane on baine’s new spine
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Baine’s ‘spine’ is sneaking around behind Sylvanas back and then meekly accepting arrest.
A spine would be declaring mak’gora, like his father before him.
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And look what happened to the old Bull… They cheated. I hardly expect Sylvanas to play fair.
Garrosh didn’t cheat so this falls flat.
If Sylvanas starts getting her weapons blessed by Anduin then yeah I’d be concerned about cheating.
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He’d easily lose, so he did the right thing another way and took responsibility for it, like true Horde. Based.
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Nah sorry… Garrosh didn’t knew of the poison but Sylvanas would happily coat hers with poison.
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No? That would be suicide and pointless. Sylvanas is basically immune to physical attacks - what do you expect a warrior like Baine will do?
Growing a spine doesn’t mean running off and getting yourself killed for no reason.
I thought people realised that when we had the same debate about Saurfang.
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Of course given that it’s Blizz maybe he’ll pull out a saronite spike pitfall or Godfrey’s brace of pistols with cursed bullets…
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Inb4 the sun warrior…Or something
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Godfrey killing Sylvanas was the most hilarious moment of Cataclysm… Like nobody couldn’t have seen it coming.
The result of the mak’gora only confirmed Garrosh as the absolute leader too and we all know what happened to all non-orcs and Orgrimmar after that 
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Baine isn’t so great at the moment but I sincerely hope he isn’t unjustly knocked off; simply from the perspective of the Tauren having a big lore character. None of this “figuring it out” Darkspear nonsense.
Gotta wonder how the Highmountain feel about this, given their affinity with the Tauren and Baine giving them their ‘in’.
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Yeah, instead of, you know, confronting Sylvanas about it and challenging her for leadership (like Saurfang should have), he takes the virgin route and goes behind her back.
Thanks for this sensible & true to the character writing blizz.
Have you even read the warcrimes novel.
He literally slams her on a wall and its described that if he wanted to, he could rip her apart as easily as snapping a twig in two.
We also know that she’s not immune to physical attacks thanks to Crowley and her icecrown experience.
Doesn’t he confess what he did after his buddy got accused by Sylvanas? That’s not ‘meekly accepting’ arrest. That’s being truthful about what he did (In front of what I guess is most of the Horde at that) and making his dissatisfaction with Sylvanas, and her methods, known to all. That’s as far from beingi n the shadows as you can get.
What do you want him to do? Start swinging fists at the guys trying to lead him away and get filled with arrows for it? Not a lot he can do if the Warchief has ordered his arrest there and then. Besides, we donn’t know if he breaks out or gets let out later on. For all we know he could pull a General Iroh (As I mentioned) and start busting faces when the time is just right.
As for challenging Sylvanas to a mak’gora, while it’d be fun to watch Sylvanas get punted across an arena, maybe he’s not doing it for a reason? The Horde is up to it’s armpits in a war, a sudden change in leadership could cause more chaos than good. Suddenly you have multiple armies having to gradually learn they have a new leader, and the Alliance (might) exploit this and suddenly become far more aggressive, taking the inexperienced Warchief flatfooted. Or… flat hoofed? Costing both land and lives in the process. Baine wants the Horde to survive with as few losses as possible, on ANY side. Killing Sylvanas and taking her place might cause a lot of short term damage, even if it would benefit the long term.
Alternatively the public opinion of Sylvanas (According to Before the Storm) is generally positive, if Baine openly challenged her, and won, it would possibly draw a large amount of ire. Unless he gathers support from the Horde first, or otherwise finds absolute proof that Sylvanas has gone off the deepend (My money is on him or someone else making it known that she’s using the knaifu in 8.2.5 or so), even if he won the duel and became Warchief there’s a possibility he might just get knifed in the back, or otherwise have to deal with being known as te guy who kicked over a popular Warchief. Wouldn’t take much to spin it as a power grab and turn the public on him, especially if Nathanos is still around at this hypothetical point.
EDIT: Y’know, thinking about it, Baine is probably aware that the meeting will be seen by both Horde and Alliance.
Horde get to see that he’s pissed and sow the seeds of doubt. Alliance get to realise Baine is definately on their side and the Horde is not unified behind Sylvanas. Win-win even if he got put in jail for it.
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So does curbing your leaders actually (good) plans.
If saurfang had killed malfurion and they’d let derek murder the proudmoore, this’d be a no issue.
Baine is being written like crap, because Golden just can’t write compelling & good stories for him.
yeah I too feel great playing blue as a red side.
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Or so he thinks. Edge of Night describes Sylvanas as essentially immune to physical damage.
Saronite is a magical material.
And Godfrey* had cursed bullets aplenty. Neither of which Baine can just pull out of his back pocket.
But no Baine is the idiot for not attempting to solve everything with violence (even where it would obviously fail)?
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