[SPOILERS] Eternal Palace - New Cinematic

There, there… It’ll be okay.

I do think Jaina was a misplaced character for this patch. I guess they want her presence to be consistent to Alliance players through the expansion, but her arc came to a solid close in Kul Tiras and we already know she and Thrall will feature again later.

This was a good opportunity to revisit some less prominent characters in an Azshara related “side quest” to the main narrative.

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Heh, that’s not only you, it’s the vast majority of the roleplayers and lore fans that know the relation between night elves and naga.

But Blizzard doesn’t allow negativity in their dojo, so they ignore it and do whatever they want and we should just shut up and be amazed by their excellent story and without equal writing skill :wink:

It was a mistake to ever escalate the faction war beyond the vanilla/tbc status quo cold war with proxy conflicts on the borders.

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Indeed. While I like the cinematic, I bet Tyrande feels quite sad.

No no, we’re told she got her revenge for Teldrassil. The night elves had their five minutes, think of the poor humans!

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I’m quite sad that Tyrande wasn’t killed.

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Yeah, don’t people know losing the single zone left under night elven control every other week and killing a val’kyr is revenge?

Barely see humans in lore or in an active role, glad they get the spotlight now smth.

Oh of course, Nathanos didn’t go “ENOUGH!” Oof.

At this point it would be a mercy kill.

I’ve found Tyrande a garbage character from day one (Warcraft 3).

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I saw a hilarious theorem on the twitters that the sound when Azshara gets ressed is actually her being stabbed with xal’atath and now Nathanos has soul stole her.

Only because Blizzard lack the will and the manpower (supposedly) to enact real status quo changes.

Yeah I see all of this wild speculation that somehow Xal’atath is involved, like Blizzard who bludgeon people over the head with the story wouldn’t have made it blindingly and gleefully obvious if that was the case.

It’s getting really sad the amount of time people are putting into theories for this expansion now when everytime a big reveal comes, it’s nowhere near as complex or detailed as what people have considered.

What really ticked me off was how on the nose they made Azshara’s dialogue regarding the whispers of Ilgonoth or whatever that whacky trees name was. People have been thirstily pouring over those whispers for years, making connections and piecing the puzzle together either rightly or wrongly.

Blizzard then comes in with Azshara. “YO COME DOWN WITH ME TO THE CIRCLE OF STARS! WINKS AT CAMERA

“HAHAHA YOU IDIOTS THE DIAMOND KING IS A PAWN WINKS AGAIN AT CAMERA

Come on Blizzard, you’re better than this. People who care about making these connections really don’t need you to spoon feed them. It’s like they don’t trust people to decipher their obviously their very deep and symbolic storytelling.

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Late response, but what Blizzard -fails- completly to realise is that this kind of narrative -doesn’t- work if you A) Write “plot-twists” that the playerbase figures out right away, and B) The most crucial thing:

This narrative falls completly flat on it’s face because we DON’T :clap: HAVE :clap: A :clap: CHOICE :clap:

Writing this “Haha, we tricked you, shame on you for following blindly!” is shoddy, no, it’s frikkin -awful- when we have no options -not- to do it. Since Blizzard doesn’t(outside of the rebellion arc) add any choices to our characters beyond, “take the quest, or dont take it but never complete the storyline” we litterally have no choice but to follow the railroad tracks, even if we already figured out the “plot twist”.

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To be fair I do like the twist of Azshara utilising the Heart of Azeroth to break the prison, that is a neat bit of storytelling that I am totally on board with. If that was the twist they saved for the cinematic, we’d be a lot less disappointed I think overall because then there would be some actual substance to it.

Unfortunately they made the biggest twist part of the dialogue of the fight which means it was datamined months ago. The cinematic now just boils down to what we knew was going to happen already, but not really showing anything exciting.

Blizzard is incapable of doing open stories like back in Vanilla, I know that time also had its issues but had less of this streamlined main story in which you have no agency of your own.

Why me, an Azerothian, am not imprisoned for all the baddies I released? Why am I a faceless and force of chaos that is either ignored or inconsequentially hailed as the greatest hero ever?

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And that’s the problem. If we don’t have agency and will/choices of our own with our Player Characters, we -shouldn’t- be a core character for the story.

And for some reason, in BfA they have almost mockingly decided to write in the Player Character into the narrative, more than before, with the notion that “all your choices you have done the past expansions and this matter” when they have litterally done every single choice for us. Even the “Haha, fools you didnt guard the tidestone” doesnt work since we had -litterally- no choice to check on it or make sure it was secure afterwards. We have no single way ever to talk to an NPC about it or anything. Same with these choices and “following along the blind plan” etc.

It’s not exciting storywriting, it’s litterally Blizzard ego-stroking their tiny dongles while moaning about how great they are at stories.

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give 9.0 black empire go go

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That awful trend started as far as Cata… Well late WotLK but LK acknowledging us as greatest champions made sense and was new at that time.

MoP at least somehow w s resetting the buttons because Pandaria was a new continent who knew nothing of us… We were more of an actual force adventuring and scouting instead XY hero.

Then WoD dunned goofed by making us all “Commandah!” When the idea of being in an alien planet for looting and exploring was alright on its own.

Ever since now… Everything about the story sucks… Not only how it’s done but also how obsessed they are in putting us on a pedestal. Not only that our bad actions don’t get us to lose said status… Release and old god hero? Aaaah it’s alright man.

Whatever you do will never ruin the flow of the story, because it’s forces upon the environment as well to ignore your evil deeds.

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Yet in BfA, they do this as well as sneakily berating us for “being gullible” etc. It’s combining the worst of the worst.

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