GDKP’s themselfs are not the problem and, although I don’t personally participate, it would not be wise to remove it since, by that line of thought, a lot of other stuff would have to be abolished which would harm player agency and choice.
What needs to be done is properly combat the bots, which in my opinion could be done by getting GMs on servers again. Although ban waves, and the detection that goes with it, work well enough for hackers and such, it does nothing against bots, as it is just “cost of business” for them.
Having GMs in game that can more quickly and easily identify this accounts will make it much harder for bots while also not giving them much info on what gave that account away, unlike an automated system.
Edit: GDKPs also have the positive effect of incentivizing more geared players to still participate in lower GS groups
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I dont know why you guys make it so difficult.
“Using GDKP or other forms of loot distributions that involve buying/selling Items that dropped during the raid are now forbidden.”
Done.
May some raids find a way to still do it? Yeah, but way less.
Will rmt still be a thing? Yeah, but way less.
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So the work around would be: i am the raid leader, all loot is mine. I will trade you the item for some gold. Then at the end i will thank you for coming by splitting the gold with you all. Im no longer selling gear 
P.s. i dont participate in gdkps just having a laugh haha
Thats just gonna be treated as gdkp, obviously.
Ofc, but its not “selling” gear haha
I don’t understand why people care that much about GDKP’s.
If you don’t like them, don’t join them and go about your day.
I don’t think it has much impact on RMT or bots, that’s gonna happen with or without GDKP’s.
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as i said many times in this thread
even if we ignore the
GDKP legit effect the game in so many ways to the worst it legit can become unplayable longterm
so “ignoring” them is not a option
this issue is like saying ignore climate change becuase we dont like it: and if you have gone to school you know thats also not a option aswell
GDKP is so harming to the game as a whole it effect even non raiders : with over inflated prices on stuff on auction house, more botters around becuase more who need to buy gold and also more who sell it becuase supply/demand on gold is basically buffed alot all thanks to GDKP
also like my example when i tried to join a ICC raid over at wotlk: best possible gear you can get before ICC but not enough gold to put in the pot for a GDKP run becuase they asked for budget
so i could give gold to the carries basically since they really want me to bid on gear if anything drops other wise im useless
reminder they ask for like +5-10k gold(in wotlk gold) meanwhile the most realistic gold farming you can do on average with good prof. is like 250g/hour : mining / herb is not much viable becuase botters is all over the place and taking the mats and even hacking with fly hack/teleport and camping the nodes and they do this becuase there is so much demand on selling gold becuase of GDKP has really run rampent
and starting bid on a item is like +5k gold often(reminder just starting bid):
so 20 hours with realistic gold/hour farming + luck in hoping no one is bidding on this item for only 1 item no thanks (and this is only the gold needed for bidding on just 1 item now the getting all the elixirs : ops overflated prices now or farm the mats that are even harder to farm becuase of bots taking them when wotlk was retail a elixirs for spellpower was like 1/3 of the price than it is with wotlk classic )
i play games for fun not as a “job” and i have to compeat against that if people getting gold via this basically
its impossible so even join that GDKP eco system at this point unless i self buy gold
OR not enough gear score to be a “carry”: reminder best possible gear before ICC raid
and EVERYONE is doing this legit every group becuase its the “meta” now and its gonna happen to SoD in later phases even more to the point every one guilds/pugs is doing them
legit making the game 100% unplayable for its PVE content
this felt like the WoW equal to a job interview where they wanted a person with 30 years Experience as a 20 year old
all becuase of GDKP is everywhere and is the “meta” this is the long term effect of GDKPs
so again ignoring it is REALLY not a option
and if we could ignore it i would not have needed to make this thread in the first place
classic era is not far off from this either
so do we really want SOD to become this? and what comes after SOD if they make vanilla plus servers to move our SoD characters to there
Sorry, Bro. GDKP is not affecting the game in any means… It’s just a loot system. Nothing more. Get a guild, and don’t attend. Meanwhile let players decide if they wanna run GDKP-s or not.
I still dont get how is it affectin you in person. Its ingame currency. I can do with it whatever I want.
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former game master say it effect the game somewhere in this long video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0uZcKZNETc
and there is alot of info about how it effect the game here:
https://www.youtube.com/@MetaGoblin/search?query=GDKP
so what you are saying is flat out wrong
and cant really join a guild when all guilds basically do GDKPs now over at Wotlk
and cant really be “raid ready” with pots & etc. if the prices on those things is insane much becuase of botters/gold sellers&buyers needs that much gold from GDKPs
and that “How Do I Afford Raiding Without Farming Gold & GDKPs?” video : yeah still require alot for a average player like insane alot
this is gonna be the future of SoD btw
cant really do guild runs if people just join a GDKP becuase its the “meta”
try to look up the word “meta”
“meta” dont always mean the must “fun” or “best for the game”
it just mean whatever is the most optimal to do even if it mean sucking the life out of the game and ruining the game for everyone else
and people on games like WoW is just gonna automatic do the meta no matter what the “meta” is becuase alot of other people start doing it until there is basically non who do the off meta thing to do
thats the whole problem with GDKP too
and joining a guild and do other loot systems is the “off meta” in this case
i have being looking like 2 months over at wotlk for any non GDKP: no luck to the point i just quit wotlk classic
and not just looking ingame: but google, discord servers & etc.
and even if i found a non GDKP guild run i am still effected by GDKPs becuase of the inflated prices on elixirs & etc.
again future of SOD
so when everyone doing GDKP no more non GDKP runs and only GDKP left
and if only GDKP runs left look at the issues of that in my last post to the point it legit becomes unplayable to even play WoW´s PVE content
unless you are already good geared and already have alot of gear from lastest raid OR buying gold
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Lol and you think that’s good?
I dont know guys… I never boiught any gold… I just cumulated gold from GDKP-s. Its my way of farming gold…
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okay but what if you try to join that eco system if you have 0 gold
and have BIS pre raid(or alittle worse)
and be maybe late to this whole eco system
BUT the requirement to join a GDKP run is to have like +10k gold or have gear from ICC and prefer alot of it not just 1 piece(over at wotlk ofc)
again i say it:
“this felt like the WoW equal to a job interview where they wanted a person with 30 years Experience as a 20 year old”
sorry to say it but since you are already in that eco system you are really bias on this topic(yes can say the same with me but unable to join a eco system dont sound too good)
since now you got the gold from GDKP runs so can afford GDKPs in general and stuff in auction house easier with inflated prices so ofc it all looks flawless for you now and its a perfect world
kinda like the view point of the world from like a celeb./rich people saying the pandemic lockdown was not too bad while they living in theirs mansion
meanwhile alot of people dont have that
becuase thats what people who is late-ish/casaul to the game and dont play it 24/7
are facing right now
there is a reason for i said earlier GDKP enjoyers seems to have the “ME ME ME” mindset
this thread is not about “YOU” specific or “ME” specific not be able to get loot becuase of a eco system that rotting the game and making impossible requirement to even join
but the game as a whole for everyone
this can be the future of SOD if nothing is done about it
and over at classic era it is almost as bad aswell i can see when i log into trade chat/discord servers for some realm with what kind of guilds looking for people & etc.
what you kinda are saying: “it dont happen to me so therefor the issue dont exist”
just right now on lonewolf ally
there is as much GDKP spam on trade chat
as on like firemaw(horde) in classic era
and this issue is already starting
i think 1 way to remove GDKPs
only have the default need/greed system enabled in a raid
and unable to do anything else
and unable to trade any items of BOP no matter what
i would prefer like a warrior needing on a mage item
over GDKP at any time
GDKPs would be fixed if:
Items would no longer be tradable between characters after looting, aka, true BoP, and…
Hire an internal GM departament (in-game GMs, so to speak); and check over every gold transaction in raid that is suspicious; or create a system that could make a list of every player that has received or traded gold in X location (i/e, in BFD), and every week or so, study and treat that list, and begin to literaly check every transaction from the first player of the list to the N-th of the list. Ban in case that something is suspicions, and make official posts regarding of why is Blizzard taking action over those player’s account.
With all of this control (that is 100000% doable with Blizzard’s resources), people would be so afraid of buying gold, selling gold, and boosting in GDKPs. Anyway, some of them will find a way to bypass that control, but it will serve to nuke the vast majority of boters-gdkprs-boosters that are ruining the game experience.
Now, why aren’t they doing that already?
Thats another subject that only time and scandals will respond.
Agree, GDKP becomes more and more of an issue. I host all my own raids with MS>OS, but as someone who is not hosting any it must be an absolute dogsh** experience
