but look at some of these people in this thread
“GDKP is fine and all” : ofc people within the GDKP eco system say that
“GDKP dont hurt the game” : ofc “insert GDKP enjoyer virgin” say that since you wanna defend that pyramid/ponzi scheme you are in
while it is a Clear fact with countless of videos about this topic and even interviews from gold sellers / former game masters its a game damaging loot system
that just put more demand on gold and that mean more botters and more advancement in botting/hacking but who cares just as long i can be like ME ME ME getting the loot who cares if i ruin the game for everyone who is not in this pyramid/ponzi scheme of a loot eco system
there is Nothing to defend unless you are within this eco system and maybe even buying gold but then you are part of the problem
and reminder i said if a thing is “meta” to do
that also means its a matter of time before legit everyone is doing it
until the game is just so unhealth meta and only way to join the game and even play it is to do the meta
and by that time come the only way to even enter the eco system is basically to buy gold
and not to mention the example i had in wotlk classic with the insane gatekeeping requirement to even play the end game PVE content that was impossible to meet unless buying gold basically : even if farmed gear enough to be raid ready and legit min-max that complety and this is the very longterm effects of GDKPs
but ofc some people really wanna defend that complety
and im like do you Want the game to die out basically over long time even more if you have invested so much real money into the game for getting gold for gear in a raid?
there is Legit nothing to defend about GDKPs at all end of story
i know there is pros to GDKP and i know the normal loot system can be bull
but the pros to GDKP is only for people within that eco system basically
and i do agree on GDKP´s mindset on they should get something out of a raid if no loot for them dropped or not at all won a roll : its a outdated loot system WoW has on what drops from bosses and how it drops & etc.
but GDKP has the major downside effect of the game as it has so so i prefer RNG rolls over damaging the game this much
atleast you rolling only 1s on loot
dont effect the game for everyone
while you joining a GDKP and seeing you get alot of gold from it if 0 loot for you
even if not buying gold this just boost the reason to form a GDKP grp even more
and before you know it everyone does it
and then ofc alot of people within those group gonna buy gold to keep up basically and then GDKP runners/gold sellers feed each other
and before you know it
we are getting Gold seller having bots that reports real players and getting them banned for taking theirs farming spots
The simple fact is that’s it’s literally just a way to wash gold that’s been bought from a website. The same as people paying 8g for a WC boost. Anyone who knowingly participates or receives gold indirectly is part of the botting problem. People can sugar coat it all they like or plead ignorance and say ‘but how am I supposed to know if they bought the gold’. Everyone knows where it comes from & it will ultimately be the downfall of SOD just like every other classic server in the past
some “rumers/theories” is also this is basically a form of real money laundering from the gold sellers part: wont be surpriced if true
i mean wow has being used before for illigal actions before from time to time
mainly becuase ofc those gold sellers also accept crypto
so you are also having a indirectly part of this
but who cares just as long my gold number go up and i get my loot
and do the gatekeeping effect of the game like my wotlk example
If someone wants to “wash” gold they bought, it’s as easy as to go to AH and buy a bunch of items to flip.
And if a buyer has a brain, they’d do their whole business the same manner, because Blizzard apparently can’t track AH transactions very well.
there is nothing to defend about GDKPs at all
i can agree with rolling RNG is stupid but that only effect Only you if you only rolling low
and i will always agree RNG like this can be VERY stupid
even just how loot can work for WOW in general like the epic staff is so low drop chance meanwhile it is properly the most needed item for most caster classes/specs
while a basically hunter only epic bow has higher drop chance than the staff
and i can 100% see why GDKPs is forming becuase of this aswell
something blizzard need to think about when choosing the drop rates
Just put the wow token in, add personal loot, marks from raid/dungeon or whatever. At this point I don’t really care as long as it removes 80% of the bots and GDKP spam. Game is a million miles away from what it ever was anyway.
wow Token will make it worst
it is basically confirmed when they did it in classic tbc/wotlk becuase now you can buy gold without the risk of being banned
infact it is becuase of the WoW Token GDKP started to get this bad
There is plenty, it’s just you’re so stuck up in your crusade you filter out and dismiss all the arguments provided, as they seem to go against your religious views on the matter.
I mean it’s being washed into the hands of people who claim they have no idea where the gold is coming from and keep repeating things like, but he said he didn’t buy it or how are we supposed to know he bought gold. These people basically get bought gold without actually buying it and then act all dumb pretending they ain’t part of the problem.
okay tell me how GDKPs is Good for the game
BUT also dont ignore the effects of GDKPs for the game
and tell me how the good parts of GDKP outweight the bad parts like how bad botting has become
the gatekeeping me and i also seeing afew others have tried over at wotlk
and i mean “good” for everyone not just “you”
sure there might be some good
but does it outweight the very bad effects that comes from GDKPs?
How is it different from AH then?
I am sorry, but these claims stand no scrutiny, simply because AH exists and is a much better medium to “wash” gold.
Well at least it will drastically reduce the amount of hacking and botting. Wow token is the better of two evils.
I already told many times in this thread, do we need to go another round of quotes and counter-quotes given your mind is set in stone and nobody will change their stance ever?
Waste of time.
Because everyone knows people buy gold for GDKP. It’s virtually impossible to know if you’re buying something that has been bought and sold on AH with gold that’s been purchased online.
try to watch MetaGoblin´s video about GDKPs legit do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKqrjbnZX7A
also before GDKP was a mainsteam concept all the way back when vanilla to wotlk was “retail”
it was insane rare to see botters/hackers while the player base was alot better than it is today
the gatekeeping was not as insane as it is today with my wotlk classic example
you didnt need a big chunk of gold to join a raid just be geared(geared as in not even need gear from that raid but just dungeons before it) and some pots
auction house has existed all the time
GDKPs has not
the botting problem really got bad after GDKPs started to become a thing
meanwhile auction house has always being there
so they are not the same
Who is this “everyone”?
You claim bold claims, but did you actually census the buyers why they did it? I doubt it.
When I bought gold in Vanilla, for example, I did it for my epic mount and raid upkeep and I bet more often than not people buy gold for that or AH items.
That some of the gold is bought for GDKP sure is a thing, but you have no real idea the actual % of said bought gold going into that. I’d reckon AH gets MUCH more of it by a mile.
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skill issue so you admit you are part of the problem
Got it so whatever you say is basically in invalid
you are legit admiting you are buying gold and feeding the gold sellers
I don’t mind admitting things I did and did time for. I’m not a saint and I don’t really care that much about my e-image in a random forum filled by randoms I will never meet IRL.
If anything, talking from experience here. It makes my take quite valid exactly because I’m experienced in this and know why I, personally, did it as well what ingame pressure brought me to do it.
Yeah dude just play dumb like the rest of people who like to pretend they don’t know where money for GDKP comes from.
Everyone as in everyone who plays the game knows the GDKP is literally the biggest driving force behind botting.
Yes you maybe bought gold once or twice for a epic mount or some BOEs and I’m sure a hell of a lot of other players also did this but these items are a one time purchase and you don’t need to worry about it anymore. GDKP is consistent throughout all stages & phases of the game is the main driving factor behind why the game is in an absolute s**t state.
But yeah you can believe whatever you like and I’m sure Orchunterz bought that epic crossbow for 1000g skinning raptors in Arathi Highlands.
looks like metagoblin making a video about how bad SOD gold selling/GDKP is
so yeah its bad