But you are free to swear at people and use crude words? that is okay i guess?
It also means you have no clue what they pug scene is like in 15+ and above if you have only done a 10 key …
And the Devs have to do this because… the timer “hurt poor Tarvas”?
And before you go shouting your “majority” wants this. Well…where is the majority? How much people did you pool? What was the sample size? Percentages?
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I am sorry Tarvas but you certainly accused a majority of the mythic + community of being meta focused and tunnel vision waay too much on metrics like gearscore and rio. I am not going to scroll up now and quote you on that because i am pretty sure that you remember the conversation we had in this topic. You are talking about incentives in the same context now, however the two things are very similar in their meaning.
It’s just less offensive wording.
Players who start a group have the priviledge to pick their mates for that run and you can’t blame them for increasing their chances of success by not picking the first guy who signs up or choose the “better” option based on the metrics that are available.
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Not really what you said in your OP, but you do move the bar a lot don’t you.
I also love how you’re quick to talk about sample sizes and statistical relevance when it suits you, but when you throw out statements like “No one did CM’s” or whatever it is, its perfectly fine because it suits your narrative.
You’re such a hypocrite.
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Erm, did you even read the post you are responding to? I dont need to be in the majority (though I suspect I would be). We can implement it and find out. You dont lose anything.
No the Devs should do it because a significant number of people would be interested (do you sincerely believe it is just me who would prefer a more relaxed format), its no significant effort on their part and unless it turns out to be very popular, it wont affect anyone adversely at all.
And if it does turn out that, when given the choice, people overwhelmingly prefer playing without the timer and with per boss loot, well its a good thing that their preferences are now being accommodated.
Its a game. Its not a job.
Citation required. What significant people?
As Dejarous mentioned previously.
So. Prove with your own statistics that a “significant number” of people want it. I only see in this thread that a guy named Tarvas wants it.
Once again prove it. Right now the idea is good because… Tarvas said it?
Ok. The idea is bad because Lynlia said it. Now what Chief?
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Were you going on about this when you played contra and couldn’t beat a boss in it as well and demanded an easier mode?
Moved the bar how exactly? Did my OP declare that there is a clear majority of players asking for this? No. Did it not explicitly state I am happy for the timed format to remain? It did.
There is no inconsistency at all between this stance on the OP. You are talking nonsense.
And you clearly dont understand what hypocrisy means. I havent demanded proof of the claims anyone else is making, and you cannot provide such proof because blizz doesnt publish their metrics.
Were you going on about this when you played contra and couldn’t beat a boss in it as well?
For a guy who runs to the moderators over justifiably being called a moron, you have no problem with petty insults yourself.
Hitchens’s razor: " what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"
That’s not an insult, lol.
No, a citation isnt required. I am confident this is true, but it doesnt matter if I am wrong. No, I cannot be certain. But I have enough experience dealing with people to anticipate what would happen if you gave people the choice. I am near certain that, other things being equal, the majority would play without the timer.
That’s not an insult, lol.
Yes it is. An insult is a disparaging remark, it is not calling someone a particular word. But given your demonstrable lack of reading comprehension, I should hardly be surprised you dont know that.
Contra is a game series for nes/snes systems that were considered to be hard for their time.
Why would you buy a game and then be like “UUH, THIS TOO HARD, MAKE IT EASY MODE PLS”. Pretty much nobody did this when they bought contra or paid to play it in an arcade.
And I am confident that you are wrong and just want the m+ rewards with less effort.
You can believe what ever you want Chief. Doesn’t make a stone cold fact.
Your move Chief… 
Tarvas’s razor: people who demand evidence when they know very well it cannot be provided in either direction, and when its not significant anyway, are irritating pedants who want to score points, not have a good faith discussion about the merits of a suggestion.
And I am confident that you are wrong and just want the m+ rewards with less effort.
You can believe what ever you want Chief. Doesn’t make a stone cold fact.
Your move Chief…
“Citation need”. Oh no wait, your standards dont apply to you, silly me.
Anyway, my “move” has already been made. Try it and see. There is no cost whether I am right or wrong, so whats the issue? I asked you this some time ago. You still havent given a coherent explanation, because you dont want to admit what is actually true:
You resent people getting gear that you want to be the preserve of M+ with the timer. Just admit it. Its a petty concern about wanting to have better gear than others, even when it doesnt affect you. If this conversation were in the context of PVP, it might even be reasonable. But its not and you arent.
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In this case the evidence is significant because you are claiming that some majority supports your idea. In which cause it needs to be proven and it can be proven with a poll and statistical analysis if one does it.
We are not talking about religious concept where neither side can really objectively prove the existence of a Divine power.
A) get a life.
B) your profile is still hidden.
Dont worry mate, no matter how obnoxious you would turn out to be if I read your posts, there is no risk of me finding out because even without a hidden profile, I wont be scouring your posting history. I dont care.
In this case the evidence is significant because you are claiming that some majority supports your idea. In which cause it needs to be proven and it can be proven with a poll and statistical analysis if one does it.
We are not talking about religious concept where neither side can really objectively prove the existence of a Divine power.
No I didnt claim the majority supports my idea, I dont think many people are considering it at all. I do claim that the majority would, through revealed preferences, demonstrate they prefer playing without a timer if given a comparable option to do so.
But my other repeatedly ignored point is that it doesnt matter if I am wrong. If I am wrong, we have a new game mode that no one plays and took no significant effort to implement, so no loss. If I am right, most people are getting better 5 man experiences, so thats a win. No polls are needed. Just try it and find out.
What am I missing here? You havent said.
If it were so popular or wanted then you’d find all kinds of sources. That’s certainly not the case.
Fact is that his suggestion isn’t right or wrong, nor is it good or bad.
The outcome, if implemented is unknown, so nobody can claim or make an arguement that it would be good or bad for the game. Just like Tarvas can’t claim that the majority likes to play without a timer.
You want a citation for… my own opinion? I even clearly worded that I am confident that said person is wrong. I never claimed that some “Whimsical majority” agrees with me.
Good grief… 
And you got that idea from where exactly? I am far from bis geared I only yday got my first 421 item while there are 3k people already half geared with 421 running around already.
And? They did the difficulty, they got the rewards. Fair and simple. Unlike a certain forum poster here. I am not campaigning for an baby-wheels watered down version of an m+ because “I want shinnies too!!!”
then why you think your opinion even needs to be said?