How is that a response to the passage you are quoting? Have you considered taking remedial English lessons? Maybe we can get some key stage 2 material for you.
I dont need your approval to have an opinion, and I have enough M+ experience from prior expansions to have a view on the matter. Nothing I have said is specific to dragonflight M+.
millions are enjoying it, stop ruining their fun if you dont even play that content.
Have you? Since you donât seem to know what an insult is.
You want a citation for⊠my own opinion? I even clearly worded that I am confident that said person is wrong. I never claimed that some âWhimsical majorityâ agrees with me.
Good griefâŠ
This is what I was responding to, as I assume you know.
If you are confident I am wrong, given we are discussing majority preferences, to be confident I am wrong, you are tacitly claiming that the majority prefers the current M+ format.
If I need evidence to make a claim about majority preferences, so too do you. Its really not that hard to grasp. If its sincere confusion or disingenuousness on your part, I am not sure.
And hey, you also made claims about me just wanting easier gear and that being my sole motivation (you used the word âjustâ). Nevermind that I cited several legitimate gameplay reason that are not ilevel of gear drops.
So if you want to assume uncharitable motives for me, dont complain when I do the same for you.
And unlike me, you havent actually provided any coherent reason to oppose a parallel, non timed M+. So if its not a resentment of other people getting gear in this new format, what is it?
Have you? Since you donât seem to know what an insult is.
The problem with a âback at yaâ in this instance my cognitively limited friend, is that in this case, I am right and you are wrong.
To quote a dictionary:
insult
uk/ËÉȘn.sÊlt/ us/ËÉȘn.sÊlt/
NOUN [ C ]
an offensive remark or action
VERB [ T ]
to say or do something to someone that is rude or offensive
So you see, the remark needs only be offensive to be an insult. You dont need to use a specific word that is offensive.
millions are enjoying it, stop ruining their fun if you dont even play that content.
Not to nit pick, but that would require at least 2 million playing M+ specifically to be true. It isnt.
Anyway, how am I trying to ruin anyoneâs fun? Read the OP. Timed runs would still exist if I had my way, I just wouldnt need to play with timers myself.
I guess you can not understand that for some on the forums English is not there mother tongue and to mock / insult them about it showâs what type of person you are.
This guy wasnât kiddingâŠ
Ok. Deep breaths
Quote me exactly where I claimed to represent some âmajorityâ
I claimed that I believe that you as in YOU TarvasâŠthe demon hunter I am responding too is wrong not some majority you claim to represent.
If any idea is to be implanted it needs to be thoroughly researched and thought over. It canât be just introduced for âlolsâ to see what happens. You canât get the genie back in the bottle once you have released it.
Prime example - LFR. I am personally neutral towards it yet there are people who outright hate it and think it should be removed. Yet if Blizz decides to remove itâŠthe backlash would make the âworkplace abuse scandalâ it suffered as a small nuisance in comparison.
I have done this where exactly?
here and
here.
It is well known that Elahri is not from England.
you get two pieces of gear in m+ timed or not stop lying ones just lower ilvl
Asking questions about how you approach games and difficulty in them is now offensive? TIL.
Look, this whole argument is pretty silly, so I will probably drop it after this either way. Asking for evidence in this context is silly. Its the WOW forums, not a prestigious academic journal.
However, you criticise me for a claim about what I think the majority would prefer, stating both that you are confident I am wrong (necessarily meaning you think the majority wouldnt prefer it, otherwise, how are you CONFIDENT that I am wrong exactly?) and that I havent provided evidence for the claim.
That being the case, you probably shouldnt be making claims about popular opinion without evidence. Except you have, as above. If you are confident that I claim I made is wrong, rather than merely unsupported, and this claim is a binary (either a majority prefer the M+ with or without a timer or they prefer it with a timer, barring an exact 50/50), then as a matter of logical necessity, you are indirectly claiming that a majority prefer the timer. There is no reason to demand evidence for a claim but not its inverse in this context.
As for unforseen outcomes, well firstly, no not really. We had untimed 5 mans for a long time. Its a known quantity. We get it with every megadungeon. What problems do megadungeons create?
Secondly, you are just giving players another choice. The only coherent argument that can be made here is that I like the current format and am concerned it will be difficult to find people to do it if a more attractive alternative is given.
Thats unfortunate for the affected players if true, but its only true if most people currently doing timed M+ prefer untimed and switch to this instead. Thats a net win, even if you personally dont like it. If you are right, I cannot make a group for untimed M+ and have to stick with the timer if I want to engage with it. I would be disappointed, but no worse off than I am now.
you get two pieces of gear in m+ timed or not stop lying ones just lower ilvl
I am not lying. Even if I was mistaken (learn what âlyingâ means please) that would be an honest mistake. In this case, you have misunderstood what I have said, because you clearly didnt read the OP. When I say only once chance to get gear, I mean outside of M+, you loot each boss, in M+, its just a single drop chance at the end of the dungeon.
Asking questions about how you approach games and difficulty in them is now offensive? TIL.
Let me remind you what the post in question was:
Were you going on about this when you played contra and couldnât beat a boss in it as well and demanded an easier mode?
That was a snarky post intended as an insult, not a serious question and we both know it, so kindly cut the crap. It didnt land, I wasnt upset. I just pointed out you are being a hypocrite.
Now take a mirror and say the exact same thing to the person you see there.
You can have 50x mega dungeons for all I care. Most of them become less popular as patch goes on cause the difficulty and rewards remain the same and usually lower or on par with raid heroic. Problems arrise when you want your 4h 5 mans to reward mythic end level gear.
You can make groups and run m+ for 5 hours if you want and can get 4 other people to agree with you.
Problem is that you donât want to and demand Blizz to personally cater to your dungeon running needsâŠ
No, itâs a logical question.
Why do you pay for a game in the current state and then demand that they make an additional mode where everything is easier? WoW endgame has been known to be âtoo difficultâ for a lot of people for a long time.
I seriously do not understand that mindset and itâs completely foreign to me. Like, I donât buy Dark souls 1/2/3 and then demand they make an easy mode for it.
No, actually its not âWell knownâ that on a forum where every goes by a completely made up name that particular names are indicative of certain nationalities. Strangely enough, âTarvasâ isnt a typical name of a native English speaker.
And whether English is first language or not, if he decides to try and correct me on the definition of a word and is simply wrong, I will point that out to him. If he decides to respond to a post of mine and the response is in no way germane to the content of the post he is responding to, I will point that out to him.
No, itâs a logical question.
Why do you pay for a game in the current state and then demand that they make an additional mode where everything is easier? WoW endgame has been known to be âtoo difficultâ for a lot of people for a long time.
I seriously do not understand that mindset and itâs completely foreign to me. Like, I donât buy Dark souls 1/2/3 and then demand they make an easy mode for it.
Its not a logical question, its snark and you are being totally disingenuous.
As for why as a paying customer do I make suggestions to improve the product I am paying for, that strikes me as a pretty dumb question.
But to state the obvious: there are things about the game I like, including 5 man dungeons. I am requesting a change which would improve my enjoyment and eliminate aspects I dont like. This is objectionable how exactly?
It is.
Why do you pay for something that you evidently do not like? I donât understand it and youâre not explaining it.
Nobody bought a game like Contra to then complain about the difficulty of it, yet people in this day and age are doing it all the time, in all kinds of games, including WoW and I canât understand why youâre buying the games and then complaining about what youâre getting and demanding the developers change the games.
Just stop assuming everyone is from UK and speakâs english as mother tongue and he didnt insult you just asked if you played a game at hard level that was all.
WoW is more than my gripes with M+. There are things I like. I am asking for those things I dont to be altered. Its not a hard point to grasp.
Its curious that you claim I âevidentlyâ dont like the game. Based on what exactly? I eagerly await your quote of me saying this.
Just stop assuming everyone is from UK and speakâs english as mother tongue and he didnt insult you just asked if you played a game at hard level that was all.
I never made any such assumption and he didnt ask if I played a game at a hard level out of any honest interest in my answer. He was being snarky and anyone honest would acknowledge that. It obviously wasnt a good faith question.
Remove the timer and every pull will require 10 min wait for bloodlust. Because that is whats required for high keys then. Also constant replacements of players and respeccing for pulls and what not. this whole idea is never gona happen for dungeons
This is obviously not true. People do not wait for bloodlust on every trash pull where the dungeon or raid isnt timed.
ofc it is true. if trash kills you otherwise on high keys? its like in raids. every pull needs bl
