I am not a metaslave. I have said absolutely nothing to indicate that I am. Nor do I “obsess” over score. Again, I have said nothing to this effect. I havent engaged with M+ in any meaningful way since BFA.
I am just talking about straightforward incentives. People will take what they perceive to be the best choice in a PUG. This is obviously true. Maybe they dont think the “meta” class is their best option. That doesnt mean they arent taking what they perceive to be the best option.
Please quote the statement of mine you actually think you are contradicting or go away.
Sometimes, the only thing you learn is one of the players you took is totally incompetent. The M+ format means you are going to be much more worried about this happening, hence people are far pickier and hence the creation of RIO.
And no, what I want isnt guaranteed success. To quote a recent post which directly contradicts this stupid smear:
M0s are laughable in Dragonflight. I am badly geared, have been in groups where I was 2nd on DPS and outhealing the healer, the only one interupting, and still made a +2 timer comfortably in time. That is moderately harder than an M0. I would like content challenging enough where the group fails if they perform that badly, BUT where failure isnt actively punishing me.
My issue is unreasonable punishment for failure, not failure itself. I have also repeatedly and explicitly stated I do not find HC or M0 a satisfying level of difficulty, so please dont tell me what I am after is normal and HC. That is obvious nonsense and you know it.
I am quite capable of doing M+. I did it routinely in earlier expansions. You may have missed it, but I got the Mad World feat of strength first week it was available as mentioned earlier. That isnt an amazing accomplishment, but please dont insult me by suggesting I cannot handle anything above M0. Its moronic.
You’re constantly going on about score and meta classes.
Maybe you should try doing that then before you make threads about it. Meta doesn’t even start mattering until you’re well beyond the reward cap.
As an example: You’re not going to run into the problems that holds back holy priests in the highest of keys at or below the reward cap. You simply don’t encounter the situations where you die without being able to do anything about it, in situations where other healers with better DR CDs survive it when you’re playing at or below the reward cap. That’s been a problem with holy priests for a very long time when attempting to do higher keys, that they die without being able to do anything to stop it.
And no, I dont need to be going over +20 to have an opinion about the M+ format. It is substantially the same format with the same complaints now as I had when I was playing it regularly. I dont need to meet some arbitrary standard you have pulled out of your bum to have an opinion.
It doesn’t start mattering until you’re well beyond the reward cap. I can understand if someone doesn’t want to take a holy priest to the highest of keys because they’re squishy, but to a +20? No, it doesn’t even matter there, if you die in a +20 as a holy priest it’s because stuff didn’t get stopped or you(or someone else) screwed up, not because you don’t have enough damage reduction. At keys higher than that, holy priests survivability increasingly starts becoming the problem for them the higher you go.
Look, you can check my RIO if you are really interested, I did +15s in BFA and Legion. I didnt make a point of clearing everyone at +15, I was just doing a weekly key and I was subbed for not that many months of the expansion.
How linking me clearing all dungeons at +10 or above is evidence of me not playing M+, I am not clear.
Oh and if you want to get into a dickwaving competition, post on your main.
edit: LOL and unhide your profile. God you are contemptible. Snipe others for their achievements, whilst hiding your own.
His past or current expirience doesn’t reflect what he is capable of doing or not, nor does any in game metric reflect that. It only shows what he has done in the game or not.
I havn’t done any “high” keys so far but that doesn’t mean that i am not capable of doing them.
Mate, me explaining basic incentives isnt me “constantly going on about meta and score”. Notably, your quote doesnt even include the term “meta”.
I am not saying following the meta is essential or even important to successful PUG M+. I am saying the format encourages risk aversion and therefore players are picky to the point where a third party tool was selected to be able to estimate someone’s experience at a glance. Given the large downside of failure, players have no incentive in PUGs other than to pick the best option they have.
This isnt a hard point to understand, but apparently, you parse this as me being preoccupied with the meta. If so, I am sorry you lack basic reading comprehension. But you are wrong. You are the one talking specifics about classes and scores, not me.
Especially when we are talking about dps. There 3 slots but can be 20-30 signups if not more. People need to pick and some will be left out regardless how you try to twist it and change it. You can’t take all 30 with you…
You have done 15’s and higher were they have done a 10 in 4 expac’s and is aking for a game mode they do not like to be removed so his views in my mind are moot.
I can understand your views but him and his toxic way of speaking to others i am sorry but they are nothing to me.
So I can be obsessed with both the meta and score without discussing either in any specific detail? Right?
And no, that isnt meta slavery attitude. Its just very straightforward incentives.
By way of analogy, if I told you, other things being equal, would rather you rather your salary be £50,000 or £100,000, if you say £100,000, are you obsessed with money, or are you following very straightforward incentives?
Its not obsessing over class and score to pick based on class and score when you have literally no other information.
I am quaking in my boots. Make BS accusations of being a “metaslave” thats fine. Stick to the accusation in the face of evidence to the contrary, thats fine. But point out such behaviour is stupid, whoa, thats way beyond the pale.
Tell me Tarvas, when you see a dude on a soapbox ranting, do you think “Man, that guys a bit off” or “woah, hes the only one thats right and we’re all wrong!”
Now think of that example in the context of this thread.
Or, you could just post on your main and unhide your account. How the hell do I know whose page that is?
Honestly, I dont care. I am not embarrassed about my profile and it contradicts nothing I have said. Nor do I care what you have or have not done.
I just make the point that in addition to being incredibly petty, its also laughable to insult someone’s achievements whilst posting on a level 10 alt with a hidden profile.