Im not being ironic though. Mage makes well over 200g/h, and most classes can easily make over 100g/h.
The cost is really unreasonable. 100g per respec at level 60, compare that to only 1000g for dual spec in WOTLK.
It is what it is, the gold cost is there to act as a way to force you to make choices about your character. You’re not meant to be able to have multiple different specs.
I would not advocate for it being changed, as a #nochanges believer… on the other hand, I would certainly not be complaining if dual spec was introduced lol.
Warrior can solo farm well over 100g/h in a pvp spec is it rly that much work to farm 1h per week to respec pvp between raids?
well if that happened it would be a catastrophe for raids… oh i’ll take this for healing, even though im dps, because muh offspec.
oh i’ll just roll on this tank item because dual spec, i know i am here as dps but i need tank gear ty.
etc. etc.
and that’s just for guild raids… in pugs… well… people are just gonna straight up steal items to vendor while they have better items sitting in bank, using the argument “its for my offspec”.
same goes for dungeons, world bosses and everything else that involves pugs.
This is really another discussion completely, but if your guild lets DPS players roll equally on healing items or tank items, then your guild officers are doing something seriously wrong lol.
100g is nothing by todays standards
What god awful specs are you people messing around with if its costing you 100g to keep respeccing? leveling isn’t even hard especially for hybrid classes so just level another toon if the 100g is too steep for you…
This 50G cost has a reason for it.
In a 40 man raid you have a llimited amount of drops per boss per raid.
So because of those limited chances they wanted to discourage people changing specs on a whim and have. Cause theoreticly if you change on a whim you’ll be needing and using more gear to fulfill and do every roll you can possibly do. They wanted to encourage people to make the talent trees choices have a impact and be well thought trough.
You knew what we were getting last august.
No thanks.
Good luck
This is one of the few gold sinks there are in this game. And now you want to remove/reduce its effectiveness. No thanks.
Currently, due to the extreme length of time that bots have been running rampant, the game needs more gold-sinks. Not fewer. There shouldn’t be 999999999999999999999 gold circulating in a vanilla economy on any given server. Yet, we have so many players ready to not only buy epic flying, but also cold-weather flying and the wotlk mammoths, without even really putting a dent in their wealth.
Warframe is 5 years old. Would you expect, as a new player to warframe, to just somehow know EVERYTHING about it? The age of the game is irrelveant because a 15yo game does not mean people have been playing it for 15 years. Also the costs were eventually removed so it’s also an old fact that was, until a year ago, wrong.
Therefore this is wrong.
I’ve put over a week of ingame time into classic really enjoy it. Stop trying to gatekeep. Retail is worse is many, many ways compared to classic. But some things in classic are just awful and time wasting. Your RP fantasties doesn’t make the talent cost amount any less silly. Retails issues came from everything being made stupidly easy bar Mythic raiding and Keystone levels. Questing became a point A to B sim.
Your whole QOL of changes argument could easily be used to justify adding random DCs when someone in your house takes a call because we’re not using dial up internet and that’s an improvement from the past. What’s the point, like the actual POINT of slow flight paths or 50g to change talents? If you feel you are correct and it would be a negative change you need to say WHY it is a bad change, why it would make the game worse. Look at OSRS which is massively better then both modern and OG RS. Small QOL can take a great game of the past into a titan modern game.
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I mean some optimist earlier said that 50g for them is 30min farming. 15min to just reset your points would still be a steep consquence, espessially when it punishes trying different roles and things. I’m not saying remove it entirely, just make it somewhat reasonable, or have it down scale over time instead of staying at max cost.
So by that logic they should make each alt take more exp then your main to stop people changing class.
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Alternative idea: no changes.
If your changing specs that often that you are constantly hitting respec cap then just level another of the same class with the other spec. Its not hard to gear in the slightest and leveling is an absolute joke but dont try and reduce an already needed gold sink because your too simple to just level another character.
The one guy said “you think you do, but you dont” and he was right about you. if you dont like classic then it is not made for you. all these crys for changes ruined wow once. and now you guys come here and want to ruin it again. if you want these qol changes they are available for you in retail. go there.
i waited over 10 years to finally play classic again just so you crybabys come here and act like 50g for respeccing is the root of all evil in this world. stop trying to change the game man.
either you dont respecc or you level another character to do pvp and pve on different characters or you just accept the fact, that respeccing is one of the last gold sinks we have.
stop trying to turn this game into retail 2.0.
i dont need to explain why i am against reduced respec costs. because the game is the way it is. but i will do it gladly for you.
i am against reduced respec cost for the following reasons
- your choices in an mmorpg should matter
- with your choices you get consequences (you either have a good pvp spec or a good pve spec or a sub optimal spec for both
- letting every class respec for reduced costs would make the economy even more messed up because there would be no way of taking gold out of the game and soon you will need to pay 600g for a flask or 50g for an elixier of mongoos, prices will rise if there is no gold taken out of economy
thats are the reasons why i am against reduced respecc costs, and i really dont care for your reasons to reduce the costs so you dont need to lay them out for me
I’m gonna go ahead and ignore everything before this, because it’s just pitiful name calling and assuming you know me.
Ok, but this isn’t an argument for the cost being 50g. Considering you have to return to a class trainer in a capital city to respec, meaning you’re stuck with your talents till you find a mage or spend several minutes travelling, which screwing in a raid would get you kicked, the sheer incovinence of changing them is a matter. Plus 50G is equal to around 20 high level spell trainings, half a basic mount or alot of trade goods.
I’m not arguing it should be you can just change your talents on the fly. It needs to make sense in context.
Is that a good consquence though? Imagine if picking mage automatically made you terrible in pvp because players were immune to AOE. Would that make picking mage and sucking at pvp a good thing because it’s a consquence? Your arguments are…weak here.
How does a reduced cost not take gold? Also how does reducing the cost of respec, which you claim should be a rare event because you know it’s a 15 year old game HOW COULD YOU not know exactly how to spec your character? You’ve now had your cake (everyone should know how to spec) and eaten it too (loads of people should respec to remove gold for the economy). And bluntly mate, the inflation is alot more an issue due to bots then respec costs.
Then log off. If you can’t argue your point without resorting to “Wah me want classic you bad man must want retail 2.0 because QOL wah” you shouldn’t be talking. No one has ever been convinced their wrong by that line of logic, it just makes them avoid you because it’s effort talking to someone who is convinced they’re right.
I want Classic 2.0. Classic, but with the terrible time wasting silliness taking out. I love the challenge of questing with dangerous, threatening mobs. I love the dungeons and having to manage my mana. I look forward to raiding. I like mounts being prestige not collectable cards, and so much else about the game. But some small things are just useless design artefacts of a time long past. OSRS got this right. Look at it. If you want classic to suceed, driving off new players by having “trying out different talents” as a punishable thing is silly. And this is as someone who has only respecced once, and is nowhere near spending 50g a respec, because I actually did research my talents. Don’t have to be a newbie to see where the game is toxic for them.
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u think blizzard will release wod with nerfed garrisons?
Another one of these… No changes to talent reset cost. No barbershop. No race or faction change. No boost to level 60. No LFG or LFR. No transmog. No arena. No duel spec. No Alliance and Horde characters on the same realm. No tokens. No to anything of it. Just stop it already.
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