The reason respeccing is the price they were was because you werent supposed to be swapping specs left and right.
Absolutely no to all of this. The reason retail became awful is because of additions such as this. The person who implemented LFG/LFR into WoW said themselves that it was one of the worst pieces of content they had introduced to the game.
Quite frankly if you cant hit 60 by playing the game then you don’t deserve to be 60. You shouldnt be rewarded just because you have disposable income because ultimately the boost system flooded the raid/dungeon scene with healers/tanks/dps who had absolutely no idea how to play the classes they boosted.
There is absolutely no reason to add gold tokens to the game either as that was what caused the massive inflation in retail. The rare mounts such as spectral tiger which were going for 500-700k are now going for 5-10m which is absolutely absurd.
Standard greens go for 1k-2k because gold is an absolute joke.
I do believe Barbershop is fine personally as its natural to change your hairstyle/beard but the rest of your points are just absurd to say the least.
Edit : Link to LFR developer explaining his regret https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/52fxo1/ama_league_design_lead_greg_ghostcrawler_street/d7jwm98/
Respec cost will go down if you don’t respec for 1 month.
I am respecking like once a month and it always costs me the same amount of 15g…
I raided with 0 points in holy as a healer - just with gear and consumables. No need to respec all the time for the easy pve content at the moment.
Interesting thought, Mervil. I don’t believe putting yourself through the struggle of questing as a paladin really helped your ability to heal in raids. My 4th alt Paladin has better logs than your main, and I never did a single quest with that one until it hit 60. Because I bought boosts.
I know you are on some kind of personal vendetta against boosting, but usually the people who get boosts are exactly the ones who are capable of informing themselves on how to perform, be it in farming gold or be it in raiding on their boosted character. Boosting a character is not exactly cheap, in fact it costs about 2k gold to get to 60. That means the decision of boosting this character is usually very contemplated upon, because the last 10 levels cost 1k gold alone. Nobody would boost a character if they’re not willing to actually play it.
Usually, legitimate players will always be farming that gold by themselves, and if you can’t manage to farm that amount of gold then I understand why you’d rather level a paladin questing. Doesn’t mean its the righteous path, because you tend to act like getting a boost would be something immoral while its actually the players choice how they prefer to play the game.
Live and let live. There’s always been people who had no idea of what they’re doing in a raid. That’s just classic. Quite frankly: 50ish parses aren’t really good enough for you to talk trash about others either.
First point is that im a casual raider and so is my guild but lets get into the quote that you butchered to make a nonsense point.
My point about not being able to buy boosts which seems to have eluded you is that Themara was complaining about the nochanges community whilst asking for level 60 boosts to be added. In my opinion if you can’t level to 60 you shouldnt be 60.
Buying boosts with gold is still leveling its just a form I dont agree with.
I have experienced my fair share of 110-120 boosters who had absolutely no idea what they were doing and I dont think Classic needs that to happen either.
As per usual the mere fact that I play a paladin is somehow an issue to you when I have 2 60s (Warlock+Paladin) currently as I took a break during BWL tier and only recently came back and just an FYI wow classic leveling isn’t hard regardless of class.
Its easy to quote half my point and find faults with it but you obviously took out the reason for my response to Themara which was her rediculous idea that the Nochanges community is the reason Classic can’t have 60 boosts,LFG,LFR etc etc.
And final point. I couldnt give a toss about logs as I dont raid hardcore I raid casually but hey if you got good logs congratulations but to use that as some form of insult is absolutely pointless and pretty pathetic 
But again im here for an actual discussion but if were gonna start having a pissing contest with raid logs then its clear you don’t have anymore points to make.
Just to check to make your point about raid logs even more of a joke I literally havent stepped foot into BWL since March 1st so its not surprising my raid logs were low considering the raid had only been out for 3 weeks at most.
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just no to all of your nonsense. they said before nochanges, if you want reduced respec cost go to retail
If you have nothing to say, you cannot reply. You’ve got what’s called grey. It sits between black and white. It’s not “Play classic because classic or play retail because talent costs”. If 99% of the player base A) Don’t care about talent costs or B) Would like them reduced because their needlessly high and punish good play (trying new things and experimenting) then why not change it?
Now if you wanted to add LFG, I imagine most Classic players (inc me) would be against that. Hense refering to OSRS and it’s voting system.
there is no nearly 99% of players wanting reduced cost. it is only a small minority crying on the forums. pls stop doing this. blizzard said #nochanges in the beginning. yet you people are to stubborn to accept that.
reduced cost would add nothing positive to this game, yet would take out one of the last gold sinks we have.
i repeat it until you stop asking for changes, all the qol changes are available for players like you in retail
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Sharding. Point made invalid.
This is a lie. As I said, newer players are punished in trying out new specs by the high cost. Even prevented. Older players have to cough up fair amounts of gold. It’s just not a win.
One of the last? What happened to
- Repair Costs
- Mount costs
- Spell costs
- Flight costs
- Profession basics costs (vials, etc)
- AH tax
Bet I missed at least one.
Ok Parrot.
And if you want a game that never changes, Warcraft 1 is still available for players like you.
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1.) i dont need warcraft 1, i am happy with classic
2.) did you really say flight cost, buying new ranks of spells and repair costs are a gold sink? you must be kidding, there are players with 50k gold and you come and say 60silver flight cost from org to ungoro is a goldsink. you are making yourself ridicoulus now.
3.) is sharding = layered realms? if so. i know that blizz did this, and on some server it has to be done because blizzard messed up with 10k people on a server. that doesnt justify implementing more and more and more changes.
4.) you think reduced cost is ok. next guy comes here and says lfg and lfr is needed, because without lfr and lfg it is punishing for people that dont have a guild. next guy comes and says unicorn heartshaped mounts are needed because he feels excluded when he is not allowed to ride a unicorn. where do you draw the line? or will you just let it become retail again because every one and their mother wants a different change? what qualifies your change to be implemented and not every other change people come up with?
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I like unicorns
Doesn’t even matter if you’re proposed change is good or not it’s way to late for this kind of stuff. Either is from the start or not at all and as this game isn’t the change this or that type, this kind of suggestions are out of the question.
This is more of a Classic+ stuff.
hahahahahahha solid troll, good effort mate
I don’t need retail, I’m happy with classic. That doesn’t mean I can’t want improvements. I like cupcakes. I’ll still add icing.
So considering my skills to train at the moment would cost more then 50g, and considering you’re saying
Therefore respec costs are stupid because they take less gold then repairs? Our tier 2 clad guild main tank pays out about 6g per death in repairs. I pay 1.5g every couple of days. So if repair costs should be 0 because it’s a 15yo game and everyone knows it, and it’s “ridicoulus” you’re ok with reducing the cost yeah?
No but it does invalidate “blizzard said no changes”
Voting system like OSRS. Make it only available to people with A) A level 60 B) An active sub that was active 7 days prior to vote (to prevent people buying a sub back just to vote) and C) x hours played in the last month (something small but enough to show active playing, maybe 4-5 hours )
If Blizzard goes “Let’s do flying mounts in old world” and everyone hates it, it fails. Make it so it requires 75% approval to make a change so it’s a massive % of the community agreeing.
If most of us don’t care or want a change, bluntly it’s stupid not to change it.
Which type of player (in 2020) is just randomly trying some specs & reach the 50g cap ?
Once level 60 you can freely do that. I see no point in “trying” random specs before that because you can’t try/see the full potential of the spec.
This player is free to do what he want to, but if he is wasting golds the game isn’t to blame, he is.
where did i ever say repair costs are stupid and have to go? where in my posts did you read that?
Respec costs are there for a reason, you can’t just take out one part of the game design and not have the system break in several points.
I think it should be a percentage of the amount which increases by level reaching 100% at 60.
By lowering the respec cost and encouraging players to respec, you are in fact removing more gold from the economy than when you keep the cost at riddiculous levels.
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Respec and repair are some of the only gold sinks in the game. Gold is already highly inflated, so removing gold sinks is a very bad idea overall.
50g is not a ridicoulous amount, you can get that from 2-3 dungeon runs at 60, if you are lazy.