To prepare for routs each season. And I don’t want to do that, just seems annoying to me. As a healer I don’t have to worry about that cause i just follow the tank.
As a healer, I look at the common routes. It helps me to plan my CDs better, familiarize myself with the mob abilities of the commonly pulled packs (so I know what spells I want to be sure to interrupt if nobody else does it, and what debuffs to expect), don’t get surprised by sudden damage spikes, and know when to not take a potion (so the CD is available for an invisibility potion for a skip).
Most tanks use pre-made routes that can be downloaded/viewed on sites like Raider IO and Wowhead. It’s only challenging if people accidentally pull extra mobs and the tank then has to adjust plans on the fly, though I find most just make educated guesses or just continue as normal.
I agree, though, that it’s not as mandatory as it is for the tank. I’m much more comfortable in unknown/little known content as a healer than I would be as a tank.
You were doing more DPS because you were getting PI and the other were not.
So its not “your” skill you do 25% more dps. Its the PRIEST skill that you do more dps.
With out it, you would not be #1 . So stop giving credit to yourself.
If you would have bothered looking at my profile you would have noticed that I main Healer. 
For all 3 seasons of DF and a good chunk of SL and BFA.
Like I said many times before: I can see the difference between a good and a bad DD.
Can you make up your mind?
If you would have bothered to look at what I typed, you would have noticed I said DPS mentality, not that you play a DPS spec. Meaning, you are always complaining about others, trolling and can’t acnowledge your own mistakes.
This is a statement to how much BS you can eat around here.
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PI does not increase your damage by 25%, it increases your haste by 20%. There is a huge difference between damage and haste.
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PI lasts for 15 seconds. 8x15 = 2 minutes of PI in a 25min combat time dungeon, meaning I had PI only 8% of the time, thus, you are talking BS.
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Some classes benefit more from PI, other classes, like DH, benefit less. So 20% increased haste for 15s, doesn’t translate to 20% increased damage. I know you know this, thus you’re lying and talking BS intentionally.
You talk so much about teamwork, but your actions speak otherwise. Basically you’re complaining that a class used one of it’s skills on a party member to help complete the key.
I’m done replaying to trolls that say 20% increased haste in 8% of dungeon time = 25% overall dps increase.
Well i dont sweat as tank but very often im like - oh this is this kind of runs once i see the dps people are doing on first 2-3 pulls.
Nearly always you immidiately know if run will be smooth for you or if you will have to plan use of your cds really metivulusly because everything will take forever to Die - and that most of time you wont be able to do much to change it
That’s why i like mid keys like 11-13 because i can just stay up nearly forever when they run back after dying to trash mechanics :): much more chilled experience when tanking
Mh, I never prepare routes when I tank.
I usually ran the dungeon so many times already that I know most routes from playing healer anyways.
If you cannot remember that, then I guess you have to prepare yea.
certainly not a 25% overall dps increase
but at least it gives a big chunk of damage as you tend to use it with the biggest cds available which then scales usually exponentially not linear, at least for some classes I guess.
PI is super strong for bosses, but yea overall shouldn’t be affected by 20%. I would more guess like 10% because the drop in dps in ST will be negated strongly by PI
na most time poo dps or poo healer cant keep group alive dps dont know itnrupt is or healer hps too low for key lvl
Right. Were here quoting half-sentences with out context and arguing semantics/gramatics to disprove my point.
You know exactly what I was saying. And so does everyone else.
Im sorry. Who came to the forum saying DPS suck? That you, the tank, are the star of the show? YOU.
And who came here saying: “Bro, chill. We all got it hard in M+”? ME.
And your answer to that is some crummy WL? “Look how awesome I am” type of reply… DPS mentality? Im sorry…
YOU sound like you got dps mentality. Im sure that if ANYTHING goes wrong in YOUR runs its always the DDs fault. Cause they “got it easy”. Am I right?
You dense. I said this:
AND this:
You did not even bother waiting for the tank to get aggro and almost died twice with meta and PI.
Buffs in this game are multiplicative. PI + Meta + trinket do mare damage than the individual buffs alone. And especially with the massive AoE damage DHs has its easy to pad DPS as a DH. I have seen warriors do 2.2M dps on the first pull of EB. And all that is thanks to stacking buffs.
And if DH benefit so little of PI. Why did YOU get it 8/9 times? Why not the ret?
You want me to tutor you on the mathematics of how this game works? Or is literally dissecting your crummy WL enough proof that you wont win this conversation.
BASIC. In fact, its a DPS thing to know when to stack your offensive CDs to puch out more than a crummy 227k dps. And beleive me, it sounds easier than what it is. Because when you stack buffs, its down to the GCD if you squeeze out one last “mega punch” or not. Maybe you should learn a few things from those guys.
Common !
Overall, its exactly 17.41% in the WL he showed. Because of padding DPS in large pulls. I ran one of my scripts.
Yeah, exactly. For Havoc DH, 10% would be the maximum, based on all the sims and parses that have been done.
There are charts all over the internet for different classes. For Havoc DH, the DPS increase is around 4-10%, depending on the dungeon and boss (since you maybe need to move or do mechanics in that time).
It’s very hard to track actual PI gains, you can only do aproximations.
All other people stating otherwise are talking BS, like this guy for example who can’t keep track with his own lies
Everyone can ran their own “scripts” and have exactly 100% dps increase or exactly 1000000% dps increase or exactly -56.78763453476657% dps increase and so on.
But that doesn’t mean they are accurate.
But people who like eating BS will eat BS until the day the die.
Tanking:
- Die to a boss - “dude, do you know this boss” - “Yes, but maybe its because i’m not getting healed”
- Someone other than tank dies to mobs pulled - “why did you pull this much, it’s fortified” - “It’s not a big pull, maybe because the group DPS is awful and healer died”, “yeah but it’s the tanks fault”
- “Why are you pulling these mobs, this route is bad”
etc, etc.
Yeah, as the tank you have to learn to ignore a lot of it, but it just gets to a point where you can’t be bothered anymore.
No wonder there’s a tank shortage.
If a tank is dying on a boss, they’re in almost all cases either: Taking unhealable damage or they’re straight up not pressing their buttons.
Especially a blood DK.
It was on rezan, on the part you have to LOS the boss - a ticking damage to tank which wasn’t healed at all when hiding from the glare from the boss. And you cant death strike.
You can do that boss without even having a healer present. If you die there, it’s because you’re either undergeared or you played bad.
Woah, you must have been in my group and knew exactly what happened.
I don’t need to be in your group to know what happened.
You’re either undergeared or you played bad.
I don’t need a healer to even heal me at all when I’m doing AD on my DK.
Awww bless you.
OK. If everyone can do it.
You do your script. And lets compare results then.
That is the smart way of doing things in this business. Claiming my script is inaccurate… because… reasons… is true BS.
Pretty accurate… for you…
Healing:
Someone dies: Same list of complaints. Tank saying: Why did you not heal me? Me watching Shield Wall off CD… wondering…
DPS:
Someone dies: Same list of complaints… I wont bore you. But DDs get a lot of heat when things go wrong. Like: DD dies… tank+healer use deff CDs… DD wondering because they are all on CD because 10s ago he almost died from lack of heals…
Nothing new here… And most important: Nothing special about tanks.
Yeah, it’s just that tanking is more of a stand-out role, and from what i’ve seen, they get more trash talking more often than one dps player doing bad dps. In this season when playing healer, I don’t often, if rarely get trash-talked. In SL, it was another story, but I wasn’t as good healing back then, plus you had necrotic and grievous.