i find it geniuinly scary how much trouble have so many people with reading comprehension - and basic analizys
cloak rank 7 to 11 collect pages -
so far it was 2/2/4/6/8
full clear was giving you 4 pages. and it still does.
blizzard states - you get 1 cloak level for each full clear.
full clear on level 7-11 means 4 pages each
atm you need to collect 2/2/4/4/4
proven by my dk last night .
Are people supposed to do full clears at cloak level 7-11 though?
I only started doing full clears on my DH at 12 with gift of the titans.
In a group, yes
Visions were designed as a teamwork, group content
Solo… depen of the class; as a BM hunter soloed and ful cleared SW around 8 or 9
you can always do 2 clears instead 1 if you cant do it.
who said they are supposed to full clear it ?
its still huge boost in speed - especially on later levels. remeber for levels 13-15 you had to clear 4/6/8 x 2 pages so - 9 runs - now you only need 3.
6 full runs is like 1,5-2 hours less needed to get to max level - 2 hours plus 60k coalescent - so 2 weeks faster for your average player
Yeah 2 clears are still cheaper than 1 clear pre patch.
I was really shocked at how much of a difference the Gift of the titans makes in a visions run. Last week at cloak level 12 I did like almost all 4 of the zones without using an orb.
wait till you see cloak level 15 with full developed tree , including +15% haste 
then you will know why people claim that masks are such a joke untill 4-5 masks.
Especially considering that I am doing them with a demon hunter with TD corruption.
I have run experiments on my upteenth warlock/priest alts, and their damage input seems to heal mobs. And they are slow (mainly due my incompetence) and they fail, and so on. And they can still clear 2 or 3, when go slow and steady. normal people/most players would likely clear the areas at this stage. I am quite certain of it.
So if people cannot do it with 1 run, going 2 is still ok. Least its not 4 runs mandatory or whatever it was on 9+ where my druid got stuck and I completely went mental over visioning on alts and wrote here on forums a QQ story of burn out.
Anyway needing to do 2 runs is still ok in my opinion, 2 is much less than 4 !
I realised that 2 runs now should cost like a lot less currency to do than 1 run pre patch
No there isn’t. The purpose here is farm endlessly until rng gives you access to what you want, potentially never.
That is not farm, it’s gambling.
Farm is “the goal is there, work to get it”. Has to be obtainable all the time, non maybe sometime in the future who knows.
can i be brutally honest about the corruption system? my problem with the system is that you have to pick and choose what gear you pick, dont get me wrong, this has been the case for a while but this is on a new level. Why would you punish people to put gear in bags cause they have too much corruption?
Yeah i get people simcraft the gear to outcome dps but its becoming more about the effects on gear rather then the stats and ilevel. Dont forget mythics start at 430, we cant check peoples gear unless we invite and inspect…
Then you have to farm essences, visions, etc to boost your cape which takes enough time as it is. Also, why isnt the essences on an account wide basis rather then per character? surely that would have been better…
you dont need those corruptions to clear that places though .
if you are unable to clear stuff like mythic + 10 , hc nyalotha , visions with 2-3 masks without corruptions its not corurption issue - its git gud issue.
flask, pot , learn mechanics get some gear and you can clear it with 0 corruptions.
you can gear to almost 460 itlv without ever touching anyhing but emmisaries , WF , easy visions.
corruptions is not a problem unless you do hardmodes.
which is why its not a problem for 95% of playerbase
from my understanding of corruption in game at the minute, it plays a big part on your dps… so everything you’ve just said isnt exactly true…
The main determinent of full clearing is having access to Elite Extermination for a lot of classes, although it’s very class dependent.
My Arms warrior starting full clears once that was researched and I think her cloak was 7 or 8, My Unholy DK did the same. I’m not sure the cloak rak was the most important thing though- that’s just the level my cloak was by the time I researched EE. That extra hypothetical 1600 extra sanity per run is absolutely huge. Once you have it, ensuring you never waste the Sanity gained and save your Orbs for the drain in the hard areas, you should be able to full clear at 7 cloak without a huge amount of sweat.
Without RNG and amounth of gear sources majority of people would have nothing to do in 2 weeks. Thats why Blizzard reduce amounth of gear sources in Shadowlands as they also removing RNG so in the end you will still play same amounth of time to get your stuff.
It probably depends on the class and the gear too.
corruption is a bonus
bonus that makes everything lol-easy
thing is content belove hardmode was tuned that you are able to clear it without any corruptions.
I don’t care about the echoes reset
Going by the knowledge that not all ranks of all corruptions will be sold all the time but is on a cycle just makes me wonder why anyone would even think of this limitation, it makes 0 sense and I really dislike it
The same goes for making it available for echoes (again I don’t care about the reset) which really only feels like a way to entice people to care about daily upkeep again
I’ll just wait for Slands before I start caring about gameplay again, obviously Blizzard has the same intention with 8.3
Great that we have a vendor, but I’m not going out of my way to pick up echoes from content I refuse to do which is the daily upkeep mostly
There is only one reason and it is as self serving as always.
They want people to keep playing BF for longer.
By adding the vendor they are attracting back some people who gave up on BFA due to the randomness before.
They plan to have those people grind daily for longer and to delay them even more by using the corruption rotation in order to delay people even more from completing what they want to do once they get all the corruptions they desire.
It is a lot similar to the way South park describes pay to win games where the company wants you to have fun but NOT enough fun that you would fill fulfilled before giving them more money
https://youtu.be/2luhwy3KAE0?t=64
WoW is not pay to win ofc but the grind and rotate time gate is there to make you pay and play for more weeks than you would otherwise.
Blizz really need to learn to let people go and be done between expansions instead of trying to burn them out until the last week of the older expansion.
Yeah my warrior was about 440ish at the time, same for DK, so not super high, but not in scrubby gear. Similar for the classes listed below.
Originally i was running it on 6 classes: Arms Warrior, Unholy DK, Shadow Priest, Enh Shaman and WW Monk and MM Hunter back when it was just released (because apparently I was a sucker for self punishment by doing the questline 6 times and doing assaults/visions x 6, probably explains whyI burned out after a few months)
Easy Tier: Arms Warrior, Unholy DK, Enh Shaman. Never had any trouble meting page requirements, and I was extremely early doing bonus obs. As soon as I got Orbs from the first run I was clearing 1-2 bonus obs on my warrior and DK. Played safe on my enh.
Medium: WW Monk - I found this harder than the others, but this mgiht be because my monk was geared primarily for BrM (I had WW Az but it was ST focused) but my stat weights were BrM favoured. WW is not my general palystyle.
Hard: MM Hunter and Priest. Hunter has improved since my clear has climbed to 462 ilevel, wth corruptions and near-optimal Az I can now delete packs pretty fast, bosses even quicker. Originally though, my progress was safe, but waaaaay slower than Arms, so much harder to get a full clear until my research strong-armed it.
I’ve found priest hard. I know other say it isn’t. Probably L2P issues with shadow (I main Disc) and not doing it the right way, but I found Shadow quite tricky to do it quickly and without risk- if I tried one, I tended to lose the other.
So yeah whilst my earlier post might make out that “everyone should be able to” that’s probably a bad way of stating it; it becomes a lot easier to full clear after EE, and it’s all some classes need to do it, others may need some more cloak levels or research because their ability to upkeep mobility, damage and sustain is worse.
Of the lsit i’ve found Arms the best imo. I very nearly full cleared before EE was researched, but would sanity out just before the final boss. I would be using flasks etc though, because I had tons of them from my alchemist getting a ridiculously lucky proc of 20 str flasks about week prior.