Tenders in 10.1.5

This.

Rather than putting Tenders into the ingame shop they should be putting ingame shop items into the Trading Post.

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If system is to be hooked-up with the cash shop, then options would be something like: 250,500,1000. Certainly not: 250,300,350.

You are forgetting that Blizzard are always guilty without proof though so because wowhead found these icons with zero context they are obviously intended for the cash shop and we have to run with that idea as being 100% verified truth and be :rage: mad about it now.

Although i do understand, and actually i do agree with your comment generally speaking, at the same time i can not to blame the community for being suspicious of this particular matter.

And your point? Its a transmog. Pure irrelavent.

yeh cos blizz are always innocent and never do anything wrong /s

And the community would also be suspicious if Blizzard told them the sky is blue.

(Edit. See above post.)

I personally will wait and see.

they could let at least one aspect of the game not monetized , that’s what pissed me off tbh, otherwise it’s okay but this was the last thing that couldn’t be bought

If this does end up on the shop I feel like it destroys the entire point of the whole “You need to be selective about what you want since you can’t afford everything”.

It’s more productive to be upset about it now and potentially be proven wrong than it is complaining after the fact. If you don’t care then the shots you’re getting in with “you people are just overreacting” should be just as gratifying as “why didn’t you complain when this first became apparent?” so there’s really no point discouraging the complaints.

Honestly, I think buying tenders is ok with me, if the prices stay the exact same as they have until now, and as long as it’s not abusive/manipulative. But players should be mad at something else:

I have a way bigger problem though with professions basically requiring ppl to buy a wow token, because there it actually impacts gameplay in a bad way. This is amplified by the fact that loot is extremely scarce, so wow is effectively a pay2win game due to everything costing an insane amount of gold. Just some random alchemical embellishment that you can’t even remove from your gear, costs 80 thousand gold. Just some random thing that is OP for M+. PvE players, who play a lot of dungeons don’t have time to world quest, and the dungeons/raids don’t give any gold. People are mad at the wrong things. If this infuriates you, there is way more stupid monetization. Also, blizzard takes a cut of 7 euro on every wow token, so they have incentive to make everything cost a ton of gold under the umbrella of “profession andies matter”. From my observation though, those profession andies tend to be pve players, who do this just to finance the insane gold costs. Without a wow token, GL gearing and using consumables. I can’t believe people accept buying tokens for 20 euro to skip 700 world quests of gold, and then they get mad at some trader’s tenders barbie cosmetic may getting monetized. B

And?

You are taking a “We found these icons that look like they might be heading for the cash shop but we have no evidence of context to prove that, that is what they are intended for we can only guess and suggest based on some zero context datamining we did” and you are running with it that they are definitely 100% putting tender in the cash shop.

There is zero evidence that is their intention. The only thing you are basing this off is a sentence from wowhead that claims they might be shop assests. For all we know they might be in game assests to buy the tender for gold or to find them in treasure chests or to earn them as extras after we fill the bar for the extra 500 each month.

The key word in all this is might

Stop hyperbolising a supposition from a third party site that have no context for the thing they have found and decided to publish.

Fair enough, but do it in a constructive way, don’t make it out to be 100% fact when it isn’t!! saying “Oh this will be a bad change if they do it” is different to “I knew they would do this” It turns it into a game of chinese whispers with more and more false facts added until people start believing they can buy tenders now, get mad on July 1st when they have to earn them like before and once again Blizzard are the bad guy because the rumour started with hyperbole was false and exaggerated.

The thing is tho what reason does wowhead have to lie about what they found namely being the icons? Their succes is also dependant on a succesfull world of warcraft. Judging on what was found and looking at the design of the things seperate from WoWheads own suggestion to what it might mean, the whole design (small pile, medium pile, big pile) STRONGLY implies that there is a store option coming, because thats text book formatting for currencies on gamestores, for real actual research adherent to the scientific method has gone into these kinds of things to maximize income from it and it is too similar is basically whats what.

Sure, we don’t know 100%, but based on what you’re seeing here there is more then enough to make an educated guess and say that yeah, that definately does look like they’re trying to sell tendies to us.

And when it walks talks and acts like a duck its at the very least usually not a horse

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The outrage is equally (in)effective in getting the point across whether it’s constructive or otherwise. I’m certainly not jumping on the hysteria bandwagon but I think they’re a necessity. You’re never going to get mostly levelheaded comments about any upcoming change or feature on a forum. If the only feedback was lets-wait-and-see or silence, all companies would be doing a lot more anti-consumer stunts than they do already.

As I said they key word is might which a lot of people are gladly ignoring.

the icons might be for the cash shop but just as equally they might be for an in game shop or in game treasure caches or for tenders earned after you complete the the bar fill for the extra 500 by continuing doing activities.

There is a blue post on the community council forum that they are intending to make changes to how we earn tender and how the trading post works using data collected from how it is currently used and that is in answer to a question about letting us have more tender each month. So your duck could be a goose.

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People defending billion dollar companies is cringe. Do you think they care about you? Nope. They care about your wallet. You are so passive, that by the time it effects you its already too late and you only have yourself to blame.

Maybe it isnt for the cash shop. Lets send a clear message now before they get any ideas.

And make no mistake. If they think they can get away with it, they will. You white knighting them only makes it easier.

To wait and see is fine. Me personally, i am not a collector and i don’t care if there will be more tmogs in the damn cash shop. However, i can to imagine being in the collector’s shoes, and it’s not hard to see reasonable dissatisfaction over this.

Afenton has not said OMG Blizzard would never do this. They have not defended Blizzard or said this would be fine. Some others have said this is fine. Afenton’s point is that it’s not known, yet. It’s not confirmed. That data mining has frequently discovered things that have never come to pass.

However, I do think it’s perfectly fine for people to state what their opinion is if they did introduce tender to the shop. I am not ready to set fire to Blizzard HQ for this but I’m also not in favour of it becoming something the shop carries.

I agree with one of the other views that if any means of getting extra tender should be introduced that it should be something we can do in game. Not with our bank balance.

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Yeah because I’m defending blizzard :woman_facepalming:

What would you be posting if wowhead had posted the icons with “we’ve datamined these icons which might indicate there is going to be more ways to earn extra tender in 10.1.5”

If they hadn’t used the language of “store assets” would you be so angry right now? Of course not, I’m not defending blizzard but calling out the irresponsibility of wowhead and the people using hyperbole.

Tell blizzard you don’t want tender in the cash shop, but don’t claim they definitely are based on some no context icons.

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Its not about being a collector. You should object becuase you and everyone else pay box price and a sub. Monthly sub. If this goes through, where is the incentive to put good rewards in the game for free? No, good rewards get monetized to make the dollars.

Why do you think we get reskins of mounts for ksm every season but the cash shop gets unique high poly mounts every quarter?

And before anyone says they reinvest those funds to make the game better, in your opinion, has the game got better or worse since the cash shop and wow token? Oh hello is that bfa and shadowlands? why certainly I would love for you to make more of a fool of me.

its a big problem we have here.

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