Oh my. He doesn’t know either. Who’s going to tell him?
It is interesting to see that most of the people that complain that delves are too easy don’t have the “let me solo him” achievement.
Now I’m not saying that he should drop myth gear, but you cannot disregard delves as trivial content without having done it.
Also I’m pretty sure anyone who has done ?? Zekvir (not talking about the Brann solo-god phase) has the skill to do 10s if they set their mind into it, meaning see guides and practice a bit.
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In 99% of m10+ cases, we are doing it rather for vault upgrade (for those mythic items), or RIO upgrade, and besides that, there is NO OTHER reward.
So if a Delve drops mythic track gear, there wouldn’t be a point in pushing the m+ above 10 would it? So instead of asking for ilvl increased drops, you should ask for more difficult content that could possibly reward those desired items.
for now, we are not living in such a world, delves are capped at 619, and they are not meant to be end-game content FOR NOW. So stop asking for the wrong things and nobody will argue with you about it.
what do I need that for? I don’t care about delves at all, I haven’t finished the 12 level yet as well if I’m not mistaken. The answer is simple.
I. Don’t. Care. About. Delves.
No other reward? How about the content itself being the reward?
I stand by my previous point. maybe Delves are not the problem but the whole structure of M+ is.
And im not asking for anything. All im asking is that Blizz sticks to the plan. Let delves be an alternatve to M+. That’s it. That’s the topic
You dont care about delves. Great!
We do. And we enjoy it. And we want it to be rewarding.
So you stay in our lane and we stay in ours.
Everybody wins
That’s delusion, you don’t have a girlfriend to just have a girlfriend, you wanna touch her, kiss her, enjoy her… not just pay for her, argue with her to just have her. LOL
At this point you are arguing for the sake of arguing. That has literally nothing to do with the topic xD.
Difference is that we can’t even get in your lane to disturb you, but you delvers sure as hell can ruin our day. So “everybody wins” becomes “delvers win, everyone else loses”.
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Obviously not you, because you clearly prefer to simply be a condescending troll over and over, instead of actually helpful to anyone else or even considering letting others share in your omniscience.
Which in turn entirely explains your apparently unending oddysey of M+ misadventures in your +8 kinderkeyz, while you stand here and act like your’re some kind of elite and still expect us to take you seriously. 
If Delves reward mythic gear you never have to see a delver 
no, you just don’t understand why and how m+ and mythic raiders function in this ecosystem and you want the same reward for something that costs us a lot of time and effort and you don’t want to work for it, you want it just because we have it.
yeah, fair enough. But we would be forced to play delves as well because our content ain’t as rewarding as you think it is.
I DO want to work for it. Just not your way. Not depending on others. Especially the kind of people that gatekeep M+
Im not advocating for an easy way to get gear. I am advocating for a fun ALTERNATIVE.
So you haven’t even experienced the fight yourself. There is no problem at all with you not wanting to do it. But you commenting on its difficulty is crazy.
Have you simply ever tried to… Oh, whatever. You will figure it out eventually. Hopefully the other guy who waits for access to hero gear before using his Runed Crests does so, too.
“The nightmare of delvers joining mythic+”
So whats a delver?
Someone who only does delves? Such thing is incredibly rare - Vast majority of the community plays different kinds of contnet.
Or anyone who ever set foot in a delve? If thats the case you are quite the delver yourself according to your own definition.
The most fundamental condition to get more experience in something is to do it. Im sure you didnt have 3k rating the day m+ was announced/released yourself?
So what makes you entitled to divide the community into this black/white/us and them view? You dont have to group up with players that dont meet your standards, wich is easy enough to search up.
And you speak about this as if its something new. Its not. Threads about bad/inexperienced players in m+ has been around just as long as m+ has existed. that goes for any endgame content and the game itself aswell.
Chose who you play with, there is no one you have to play with, and no one who has to play with you.
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I’ll never understand people who label themselves as “delvers” “Raiders” or “pvpers”
With so much content why limit yourself to one thing?
Im here to do EVERYTHING. Pvp and Pve.
Just clearly not M+, since the forums showed me what that kind of content is like and how its players behave to newcomers xD
Edit: This thread is SO gonna get locked x)
no you are not.
you are asking for mythic rewards for delve in its current state. This cannot be done, because not even the m+ rewards you with such gear, and that is at this point way harder content, so they’d first have to fix the m+ reward, then add delve more difficulty and scaling that could possibly reward similarly. But where we stand now, it just cannot be done, you should understand it and stop asking for wrong things.
600ilvl people can do it, you think I can’t do it with 635 so that’s why I haven’t done it? That’s how you see the world really? 
Many, and i mean many people who have timed keys from +10 and above, are still failing at zekvir??
all the “+10 are far far more difficult than zekvir??” posts are completely delusional. First of all different content and styles of playing/skills demanded. Barely compareable.
And Zekvir?? is probably more demanding for the individual player vs a +10 in a functional group.
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A delver is a person who has a skill level based on his gameplay experience in delves, which is super easy mode content for absolute beginners. How do you not know this?
Ah, so the issue is in fact your own failure at reading comprehension,and not our understanding of teh upgrade system,now everything makes sense.
Because nobody in this thread, at any time, suggested not upgrading champion gear if you do not already have access to heroic gear, but rather specifically that this applies to people like Naethir and Myself that don´t have to wait half the season to progress into content that rewards heroic gear.
Now I understand your permanently condescending nature, it´s all just a smokescreen … too bad that smokescrens don’t really mask the smell of bull 
very well