28/10/2018 16:38Posted by
Zarao Typical blizzard. Destroying all nuances after some alliance tears. Arctur is probably fapping right now.
Not really.
In fact, by making them be 7th Legion operatives, they are making it harder for the Alliance faction to disown their actions.
No longer can they claim these were independent squads. Now they fall directly under Halford and Anduin.
And even then it is truly morally grey and kinda normal thing to do in war. They spared innocents and just cut off supply lines, after all each side does want to win and will do what they can to do so.
Well, I understand that the alliance have no reason to do all this stuff. But why is the horde always the scapegoat? I mean why someone should even support a crazy corpse, which is doesn't accept by the elementals, nature & light? I understand the salt machine at this point.
And even then it is truly morally grey and kinda normal thing to do in war. They spared innocents and just cut off supply lines, after all each side does want to win and will do what they can to do so.
No, no, the Alliance is doing this in order to stop the bad guys right? it is totally just and right because the script says so.
They spared innocents and just cut off supply lines, after all each side does want to win and will do what they can to do so.
The Horde side of those quests remains the same. Those soldiers are still burning Vulpera.
They just changed names.
If we go with the Horde side of what we are shown ingame, they are still very much killing them.
And even then it is truly morally grey and kinda normal thing to do in war. They spared innocents and just cut off supply lines, after all each side does want to win and will do what they can to do so.
No, no, the Alliance is doing this in order to stop the bad guys right? it is totally just and right because the script says so.
No they are doing t because they have been forced into a war by a crazy woman XD
Well, I understand that the alliance have no reason to do all this stuff. But why is the horde always the scapegoat? I mean why someone should even support a crazy corpse, which is doesn't accept by the elementals, nature & light? I understand the salt machine at this point.
At this point I totally believe the devs take active joy in destroying all faction identity, pride and motivation left for Horde players in order to push their "Anduin and the Alliance are the best thing happening to Azeroth ever!!!" agenda. There is no other explanation left. The Dev's are biased and sadistic.
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Well, I understand that the alliance have no reason to do all this stuff. But why is the horde always the scapegoat? I mean why someone should even support a crazy corpse, which is doesn't accept by the elementals, nature & light? I understand the salt machine at this point.
At this point I totally believe the devs take active joy in destroying all faction identity, pride and motivation left for Horde players in order to push their "Anduin and the Alliance are the best thing happening to Azeroth ever!!!" agenda. There is no other explanation left. The Dev's are biased and sadistic.
You are so good at over exaggeration :P stop generalising Anduin’s stupid personality to the whole of the Alliance.
Blizzard are mistreating both alliance and horde in various ways all the while giving horde and alliance good things. People just hyper focus on the negatives. But in this case I don’t blame them because the negatives.... are big negatives.
28/10/2018 17:05Posted by
Zarao The Horde side of those quests remains the same. Those soldiers are still burning Vulpera.
They just changed names.
If we go with the Horde side of what we are shown ingame, they are still very much killing them.
They're not ever going to see it in-game, so don't expect them to ever consider the Horde perspective of events canon.
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28/10/2018 17:05Posted by
Zarao The Horde side of those quests remains the same. Those soldiers are still burning Vulpera.
They just changed names.
If we go with the Horde side of what we are shown ingame, they are still very much killing them.
They're not ever going to see it in-game, so don't expect them to ever consider the Horde perspective of events canon.
You know it, if I'm not sent there to kill them but rather disrupt supply lines and if the Horde can have a choice in how there story progresses then there's no way I'm gonna accept the Horde narrative that the Alliance are killing them for the sake of it, anywayz horde are desperate for anything in this conflict to make them look not as bad, that act will not be this.
They're not ever going to see it in-game, so don't expect them to ever consider the Horde perspective of events canon.
Thats interesing. It would mean that Brennadam could also be considered as not canon, as it clashes with the Horde side of the story.
28/10/2018 19:21Posted by
Leifei You know it, if I'm not sent there to kill them but rather disrupt supply lines and if the Horde can have a choice in how there story progresses then there's no way I'm gonna accept the Horde narrative that the Alliance are killing them for the sake of it, anywayz horde are desperate for anything in this conflict to make them look not as bad, that act will not be this.
Nah, in comparison the Alliance, Sylvanas's Horde will always be absolute monsters and there's no way that the Alliance could ever be remotely as bad as the Horde. But they can still be bad and the fact that the Horde players witness the 7th Legion slaughter Vulpera is evidence of this.
This doesn't mean that anything that the Horde does is remotely justified, nor does it make the Horde remotely better in any shape or form. Even if the 7th Legion successfully exterminated every last Vulpera in existence, it still wouldn't be a drop in the water compared to what Sylvanas has done.
All it means is that the Alliance can do nasty stuff for no good reason too. And that's fine. After all, Alliance players don't even get to witness it unless they stumble across it while this invasion quest is active for Horde players.
28/10/2018 19:31Posted by
Zarao Thats interesing. It would mean that Brennadam could also be considered as not canon, as it clashes with the Horde side of the story.
All take shelter, a s***storm is heading our way.
28/10/2018 19:31Posted by
Zarao They're not ever going to see it in-game, so don't expect them to ever consider the Horde perspective of events canon.
Thats interesing. It would mean that Brennadam could also be considered as not canon, as it clashes with the Horde side of the story.
You see when the Alliance does bad the devs forget about it and it is totally non canon, always. When the Horde does bad they put a monument ingame to remind everyone about for all eternity(Broken Shore, Arathi, and many more). Totally not biased or something right?
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for no good reason too.
"No good reason"?
Delivering a steady stream of war supplies to your enemy during a time of siege, siding with your hated foe, how would you call these things, if not acts of provocations? The Vulpera chose to break their neutrality, and paid for it with their lives.
It baffles me that Horde players are always ready to say "Theramore was a legitimate military target because it aided the Alliance and broke neutrality", but when the Alliance applies the same logic to the Vulpera, they don't have a good reason driving them.
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28/10/2018 19:21Posted by
Leifei You know it, if I'm not sent there to kill them but rather disrupt supply lines and if the Horde can have a choice in how there story progresses then there's no way I'm gonna accept the Horde narrative that the Alliance are killing them for the sake of it, anywayz horde are desperate for anything in this conflict to make them look not as bad, that act will not be this.
Don't worry, when we're baking cookies, hugging orphans and praising Baine, the forums will be plastered with people pointing to these war crimes.
28/10/2018 19:46Posted by
Arctur It baffles me that Horde players are always ready to say "Theramore was a legitimate military target because it aided the Alliance and broke neutrality", but when the Alliance applies the same logic to the Vulpera, they don't have a good reason driving them.
Lmao Theramore did far more then just sending supplies. They were activley aiding the Alliance everywhere in Kalimdor, plus parts of their own forces, aiding those from Stormwind(Barrens, Durotar and the waters around Ratschet). Share all facts, not just those few you seperated.
28/10/2018 19:31Posted by
Zarao Thats interesing. It would mean that Brennadam could also be considered as not canon, as it clashes with the Horde side of the story.
All take shelter, a s***storm is heading our way.
How so?
Its only natural and the exact same logic applies. In both cases we have one side going against what the other side shows, so its only natural to give both events the same treatment. Either both are canon, or neither are.
What Rexxar says during the Horde questlines goes against what happens in Brennadam (both regarding logistics and modus operandi).
And if that causality is to be noted here regarding the Vulpera, then its only natural to have the same reaction to both events.
Yeah, in both cases you can apply some rationale or reasoning to concile both scenarios. But again i say, it must be applied equally.
This isn't as much about 'muh Brennadam' but about simply wondering how players measure 'canon'.
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Horde poster: Blizzard are ruining the Horde. They make us look like murderous genocidal maniacs.
Same Horde poster: Lol, Theramore deserved to burn. They were aiding the Alliance (surprise!). Garrosh did right by slaughtering them all.
Oh, the hypocracy...
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Same Horde poster: Lol, Theramore deserved to burn. They were aiding the Alliance (surprise!). Garrosh did right by slaughtering them all.
They deserved to get attacked. Nobody said the mana nuke was justified.
28/10/2018 19:58Posted by
Zarao How so?
Its only natural and the exact same logic applies. In both cases we have one side going against what the other side shows, so its only natural to give both events the same treatment. Either both are canon, or neither are.
What Rexxar says during the Horde questlines goes against what happens in Brennadam (both regarding logistics and modus operandi).
And if that causality is to be noted here regarding the Vulpera, then its only natural to have the same reaction to both events.
Yeah, in both cases you can apply some rationale or reasoning to concile both scenarios. But again i say, it must be applied equally.
This isn't as much about 'muh Brennadam' but about simply wondering how players measure 'canon'.
Because everytime a horde player tries to bring logic with brenadam or measuring equal events, the alliance goes on full rage mode. We had many times bringing this up. Just look at past mentioning of it. They wont have that.
PS: I am with your post