"The Rotation Assistant Beats 75% of WoW Players."

Yesterday I tried OBR for the first time on alts / specs I never play and it is pretty relaxing way how to play something you have no clue about in casual content. Was very well received and I like it.

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you don’t even participate in m+ what are you talking about

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if that’s the case then wow has become over the year’s overly complicated as we all guessed.

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the single button isn’t a bad thing. I think it allows many people to play the game resp. increase their quality of experience.

“Imagine realizing that you would be better off doing the One Button Rotation even though thats not the way you want to play the game at all. Where does that leave you?”

Git gud bro, git gud.

I don’t get it, I think if you watc ha video for your spec, read the talents and stand at the puppets to practice, you are instantly better than the one button thing. You just invest a few hours once and you good.

as written in multiple replies, the OBR is good for so many things but it makes the live of everyone else in m+ worse.

if you can’t be asked to learn your 123 then you aren’t going to learn what spell to kick

obr is good for farming mounts, farming herbs, doing the main story
obr is going to brick so many keys when they start to rank up into 10s where your healer can’t save you if you blatantly ignore mechanics

I respectfully disagree.
With fewer things to think about, there is much more time to think about the other aspects of combat, like CC, positioning and interupts.
Most people perform better at tasks when they have to juggle fewer things at the same time

Using OBR is not ignoring mechanics though?
The same people who CBA to do the mechanics, will not do it now either. OBR just raises the minimum expected dps output of players

but isn’t that exactly why there are key levels, if you struggle in a 5 you most certainly don’t belong in a 10. Now you may have the dmg because a bot is playing it for you but you still lack the skill to be in said key.

which is true but now you have the CBA ppl in “higher” keys as well because they could bruteforce their way into 10+ and up.

At the end of the day it will hurt the pug scene the most. Personally I’m going to look for a static group and opt out of puging as much as possible. Since i can’t ensure i don’t play with OBR/SBA (whatever you want to call it) ppl i take my tank/heal services somewhere else. From what i’ve seen online it seams that most ppl that aren’t happy with the OBR are tanks and healers so that results in longer wait times for dps.

just to add, I’m not against the hekili thing, I’m only against the aimbot button

the highlight will let ppl learn their rota (even tho they don’t know why to press what) it builds muscle memory the OBR is building nothing

While i agree that the weak CPUs in current gen consoles are a problem, especially for WoW, don’t forget that the average raider has sub 30 FPS in raids all the time or worse and they’re like “this is fine” :clown_face: :rofl:

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I love it when everyone starts fighting, which is most of the time on here. It’s usually the same people too so presumably it’s all they have going on in their lives.

I think the main issue isn’t you or the one button ability

It’s the people that do casual level content with an elitist/sweat attitude.
Majority of content has so much buffer room that even if a DPS or two is under performing one good DPS or Healer or Tank can buffer the group plenty.

But if everyone is being forced to use it for optimisation or rather feeling as though they’re forced that’s when the problem occurs.

IMHO Blizzard should have streamlined abilities across all specs and classes first then done the one button approach.
Someone mentioned above about it likely being ported to console and in all honesty I agree, its a huge chunk of potential money and playerbase that I think suits WANT to see.

Really my convoluted words are saying to you OP;

Don’t sweat it, play the game how you want to. That’s all that matters. If anyone tells you different just /mute and get on with your day.

Don’t feel pressured to run the one button, if anything I’d maybe suggest the highlighting option, to see how much your button presses differed but I play Holy Pala so I don’t have an option for it, no idea how accurate this stuff is.

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Fight foooooor your liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiifeeeeeeeehihihihihiiiihhhhh (sorry but this iron maiden citation was mandatory)

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In all honesty console optimisation almost always works out better performance wise for the technology compared to its Computer match.

I/O benefits on PS5 / SX will or rather would be extremely interesting to see in WoW.

The main issue is devs porting the spaghetti code that is WoW on to the AMD platform current generation utilises and readying it for the next generation, yuck.

:grimacing:
Shush xD :zipper_mouth_face: :dracthyr_crylaugh:

You can’t optimize mainly single threaded software without reprogramming.
WoW “supports” multithread and has multithread GFX calculation etc., but it still mainly utilizes one single thread for too many things wich overloads console CPUs.
Yeah sure steam deck and things can run WoW, but as I said “running” and “acceptable” are two different things.
And we all know that XBox and PS players are gfx and FPS junkies with all their 4K 144Hz TVs running games native 4K60/120FPS (with mushy gfx due to faking 4K and the likes, and still sub 60FPS sometimes).
If MS/Blizzard wants to put WoW on XBox/PS then not to give their existing playerbase the option to move to console but to attract new customers, and that will not work out at all with WoWs (4K) performance on consoles.

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No amount of “coding to the metal” will make the singlethreaded nature of WoW run better though :smiley:
MMOs like Final Fantasy 14 are more multithreaded and still don’t run great on consoles.
It’s in the nature of the genre, some things have to be calculated in order.
With WoW’s biggest bottleneck being the lua code.

You know what’s a good tool if you’re CPU bound? Framegen :smiley:
I bought Lossless Scaling in the recent steam summer sale for like 4€ and have to say i’m actually impressed how good it works in WoW with the adaptive mode.
Just keep in mind that if your base FPS is too low this won’t do much but it’s nice for high refreshrate displays.

That might be true if someone made my mother play (I bet she would not even get out of the starting zone). But I assume that people who made it there have at least enough gamming skill to get the job done if they commit to it.

The Pug Scene was always a folly
Trust in random strangers with no reliable way to evaluate them or a server reputation + Challenging content = Bad time
This is not a new thing, lets not pretend that this was not always the case

nobody is saying it wasn’t rough already but now you just add more problems to the mix.

anyway it is what it is, blizz does what they think is best, for example say grip is a raidbuff so I’m sure they find a way to make everyone happy. I mean look at the cooldown manager isn’t that thing marvelous wins after wins after wins

the video is fire btw :smiley:

It is time for Blizzard to take responsibility for skill-creping the endgame to the point that even former raiders etc are throwing the towel because they have better things to do than get through having their ingame CV checked each time they want to do anything that cannot be queued into without a group of friends who happen to be available at the right time and where if something goes wrong enough, the system punishes the key owner.

I am glad that you liked it, Oxhorn was a big name in the first generation of wow content creators

Many average players can spend 30 minutes properly reading through all their talents and spells so they don’t feel pressured. “the poor snowflakes”. If they are still getting outperformed by the auto rotation button then it’s a simple upper floor problem

You think when they do a console port its going to be a 1:1 with the spaghetti code intact? Its going to be an complete overhaul using more cores, people rocking less than 6 cores are going to have issues though.

Was made for the PS3… with 256mb of v ram to work with.

Fake frames is better? What you like ghosted images with trails… lol Rather my

5800X3D do its job vs fake frames from my 4070 Ti super…

Running injection with a game that has anti-cheat should be fun…

Gamescom should be fun if they announce consoles for the next Xpac… with all the steps they taking it makes sense to be soon™