What didn’t you leave to talk to your imaginary friends?
If you play WoW for the roleplay element (bless your heart :D), I don’t even think there is such a thing as ‘success’, other than you enjoying yourself.
Naturally, in a game with strong roleplaying elements, and divergent playstyles, people will disagree on what ‘success’ is, but regardless of that, when looking at the community at large, most people will agree that being high rated in arenas, and progressing the raids quickly IS endgame success. There are outliers, but serious players will align along those lines, while casual players probably won’t be bothered by the strange lizards running around.
My point is not that the mount’s introduction, and the level boost affect noone. My point is that for most serious players they should be far, far down the list of priorities to complain about.
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Funnily enough we will miss a legit player in dungeons while cheating boosties add nothing to the game.
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Except no “legit players” actually do dungeons. They just buy dungeon boosts from bots and mages.
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Not true. Not “everyone” levels through dungeon boosting. There are those that level organically too. And even boosters like to take breaks to level in the open world because it’s boring to stand still collecting XP in dungeons. Someone on Reddit made an addon or the like to follow chat over time to register key words and see how much of chat pertained to boosting. It showed 40 % or so, while the rest were legit groups LFM/LFG. While it varies from server to server, I seriously doubt as many as 80 %+ of players dungeon boost. What matters is how many of them pay with botted gold, and then I think the figure is much lower, maybe around 40-50 %, as buying gold is against ToS and not everyone is willing to do it. People exaggerate and just use this fraction of the playerbase as an excuse to bring in paid boosts, in an attempt to justify it and feel better about it.
I think the mount is ehh, most people bought deluxe just for the boost…
The Phase Hunter is the Celestial Steed 2.0 at this point. I don’t really mind it anymore. I just find it embarrassing.
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All I see is a bunch of noobs on ugly mounts, not much more to it than that.
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No I don’t think you, or the ‘chief’ above your post understand.
It’s hilarious you have to create a new “Pay-for-convenience” term to try and bend the rules. Yes, it could be argued it’s convenient to skip 58 levels. If you don’t understand the importance of levelling (community, friend-finding and world building) in those times, then no you don’t understand Classic.
So skipping a huge part of the game isn’t considered a paid cheat? No sir, YOU don’t understand what ‘literally’ means. 1-58 is in fact part of them game, and that is a fact. Whether or not you apply some opinionated “It’s irrelevant” argument has no bearing on that.
One may as well say the entire levelling content and levelling dungeons are irrelevant in TBC once you hit 70, because you don’t have to do them anymore. Oh yes, Blizzard why don’t you just add a “Pay-For-Convenience skip to 70.”?
Bloomin’ 'eck Blizzard why do you bother hiring marketing staff? You have legions of players doing the work for you. No wonder Retail is in the laughable state its in, and no wonder Classic’s future has taken such a nosedive.
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The only thing that’s hilarious here is people like you who don’t have a single clue what pay2win really is. And Pay-for-convenience isn’t even a new term. Better luck next time.
Here’s the definition for P2W: Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying.
It’s also hilarious to think that everyone has to think and play like you when it comes to levelling. Fun fact, when I started out in late Vanilla people wanted to rush to max level because we were told that there’s where the real game began. Besides RAF level boosting was a thing also.
As with any game, different people like different things. I for one enjoy levelling, other people don’t. It has nothing to do with it being Classic. Please do continue with your hate towards retail and it’s players though. Perhabs you better start looking at your own Classic community first.
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I think pay-to-win is what it says. PAY TO WIN.
See my friend, what you lot fail to do in this extremely entertaining tennis match going back and forth “No, you are wrong.” is I actually describe why buying a boost is in fact PAYING money to WIN 58 levels. Just because something is apparently ‘irrelevant’ in the minds of players that doesn’t make it a fact.
'Pay-For-Convenience is a much newer term, and it’s a feeble cloak to try and hide pay-to-win systems. I mean isn’t it convenient to have experience bonuses, health potions, LEVEL SKIP CHEATS? Yes it. It’s also rather loosely based on what a certain part of the playerbase determines as ‘important content’ and ‘unimportant content’. In the current world of the META META GO-GO-GO endgame twitch kill-kill, with absolutely no interest in world building, atmosphere and the social fabric of the game world itself, yes, anything that is bleeding edge progression or high-end mechanics is ‘unimportant’.
What I hate is Retail-minded players working for free in marketing for Blizzard Entertainment. I don’t actually hate them personally, and I think they’d spend their time rather better staying with Retail, because they will get bored of TBC very quickly. They ARE actively damaging the point of having Classic - as in a very different type of game alongside Retail.
The future of Classic most certainly is on a path to Retail. What, does it make sense to just repeat history again?
It’s irrelevant that some people hated levelling back then. And? Classic happened because there were clear goals, and it was always expected that it would continue to early expansions ( and not later than say Wrath because it would be pointless as it’d be so close to Retail).
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No one cares about you think P2W is.
Alot of those people did actually play Vanilla, perhabs you should mind your own business. The only damaging thing to Classic is it’s own community.
I havent seen such a stupid person like you on forums for a while. Please continue.
The classic purists (pserver boys) are the ones actively harming the game. Majority of the pserver boys never played vanilla in the first place or tbc for that matter.
The WoW community is it’s own worst enemy at this point, no matter what Blizzard does will make anyone happy or be agreed with by the community because every player has their own ‘vision’ of what the ‘perfect’ WoW version is. They ‘hate’ store bought mounts and toys and boosts, but will happily abuse the crap out of boosting for gold, world buff stacking etc. It’s hypocritical and selective nitpicking.
What we got is this, play the hand you are dealt and deal with it. Making endless threads about how X is bad and how X ruins my ‘classic experience’ solves nothing.
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Oh look, it’s toxic Billykid with his usual ad hominem again. You’re a shining example of the “nice” Classic community. It’s people like you who destroy the spirit of Classic.
Is that a selfie of yours?
I was trying to get on your lvl, sorry if it was too high for you.
The muppet show called, they need you back on the balcony.
I thought show was canceled, theres nothing more hilarious than your posts so what the point of the show.
Anyway thats my last message to you. I wont be dealing with toxic ppl without any clue what they are talking about. Its enough you have to deal with youself. You called other toxic but did you see your own posts? You cant even see conection between p2w and boost XD and what is more you post from 52lvl character cause you are too afraid that someone you know will see this bs you post in here. Im too smart for this (you), learn to use your brain and get lost.