The weekly "Power in RP and how to get other people's consent for it thread"

How ever did you take that as a no? Your posting is getting seriously Lovecraftian :crazy_face: and I can’t fathom it

You can do what you want is an absolute “yes”. If you want to make a guild that wants to enter conflict with my character, go right ahead. You don’t even have to ask permission

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You keep missing or choosing to ignore the fact none of this has been done without justification, it’s all the consequence of RP, not just randomly decided.

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I can understand that people can be peeved at having their planned event interrupted by outsiders.

However, unless we hide ourselves in bubble-rp the IC world we create around our character is a fluid universe with multiple interactions and reactions to these interactions.

Rogmasha has been publically hunted by the Stygian Legion for a while now and has appropriately refrained from RP’ing in large cities.
Furthermore, Rog took the opportunity to bring life to less-traveled areas making events via The Roaming Hub which is a great initiative.
However, a lot of what made those events extra interesting on paper at least was that there was an underlying element of danger by being close to a wanted criminal (alleged criminal yes, semantics aside the point stands).
When this danger then boils over and goes from being a hypothetical to a reality it really shouldn’t take away from RP but add to it, in my humble opinion.
Instead of complaining that an event was ruined was it perhaps not simply altered? Surely, RP wasn’t made impossible by the attack? Instead, I would imagine the involved characters were faced with interesting choices and in the wake of the attack left with even more thoughts and avenues of RP to pursue.

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I answered you, twice, thrice even, but you seem to be ignoring that.

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YOU have justification. The Horde at large has no reason to take your word over the other side’s. That’s the issue.

Again, which grunt legion has the authority in this case? Because there’s dozens if not hundreds of them.

If you don’t want to accept we’re grunts and can’t enforce some laws, that’s okay. My advice is just not to roleplay with my guild. I can’t offer you much else.

Generally when it comes to ‘enforcing the law’ in roleplay I have a policy of not throwing my weight around. When it comes to doing it I try to keep very close to what we see in the game. If someone turns around and says they don’t like what’s happening I am 100% okay with letting them go on their way; no harm done. If Rogmasha did not agree to the bounty / rebellion roleplay, I would be also be okay with it and not pursue the narrative.

Really, the only policy in Orgrimmar we have is not yelling about hating the warchief, or trying to kill people on the streets. A rule of thumb.

If you have any other questions happy to indulge.

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Pah! Speaker of the Horde.

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Maybe because they are the authority of the state?

What does which legion we are matter? Does your local police force lack authority because they are one of many constabularies?

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Again, which one?

If Legion 35 says I’m a criminal and Legion 36 says ‘Nah’ which one goes through?

Well if another guild wants to RP grunts and challenge us then go ahead, that could be interesting infact, although I imagine all grunt legions are against murder and treason.

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Let’s assume they do.

Do I write a counterbounty that cancels your bounty? Bobby is now pardoned because the for/against Legion score is 1-1.

Do you not see the problem with that?

Sure but my fictional legion doesn’t believe the accusations are true.

You’re really invested in this fictional narrative of a situation that would likely never come up in real life and would be mediated between the parties if it did

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And why would any other grunt guild do that? Simply to undermine The Hand of Conquest. Seems like a very low thing to fall to if you ask me.

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A bridge to cross if it appears. If someone wanted to declare a bounty we made not valid, we would communicate with those involved in our roleplay if they wanted to pursue it. It entirely relies on what the person wants to do.

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Well all RP is about co-operation. If Rogmasha didn’t want to pursue the dissident-turned-wanted-fugitive-by-the-suppressors line of RP they didn’t have to. Likewise, even though they did, they didn’t have to accept to being captured.
Where criminal-guard RP often fail is in the matter of co-operating and doing the ole give-take. That doesn’t seem to be a problem here, so I honestly fail to see the issue.

Edit: And in that line, for grunt/guard RP to be optimal one could assume that they (several guard companies or grunt legions etc) talked in between themselves rather than just pulling out their rulers to start measuring e-peepee’s.

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It’s not about HoC it’s about guard guilds and authority. If a single guard guild can be judge and executioner what happens when two clash?

God forgive me for saying this but


They RP it out.

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I mean it’s not like they are forcing people to acknowledge them as an authority? They put out a bounty, people who accept them in that capacity are free to act on it. They’re not making you do anything. Assuming Rogmasha wasn’t forced/pressured into accepting their RP I don’t really see what the issue is?

If you had two different grunt guilds which heard different sides of the story or whatever then that would
 well, it would be quite an interesting scenario which would probably be resolved through RP? Like, what’s the problem there?

A issue to be resolved when it appears. It seems like a very weird thing to argue back and forth about, when the people you’re using as examples are already in agreement. As as Pullo said, if this was to become a thing that takes place. They’d most likely talk about the issue, perhaps agree to not try to ruin for one another, but instead work together.

Why don’t you make another guard guild and do all these hypothetical situations and find out for yourself what happens instead of postulating* on a forum?

(*by which I mean force-feed your fictional narrative to everyone who will listen despite counterarguments, because it is the cornerstone of why you are 100% correct and you will not accept it being disproved because otherwise you no longer have an argument with which to bludgeon people)

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